Shorting coil gives back more power

[popolibero]

Haha okay , I thought this had moving parts since the magnet is shown in different positions in the lower set of diagrams  (thought it was a magnet on a rotor).  My mistake...

Feynman, I think you still have some things mixed up. If you're referring to the link yes it shows how to short coils on a rotored version. But you can apply the same shorting circuit to a non rotored version like I just explained.

I'm not sure magnacoaster is shorting the coil, I think he's doing something different.

[Feynman]

@popolibero

I'm sure I still have things mixed up!  Just learned about this in the past day or so.  Thank you for your explanations though, they have been very helpful.  I appreciate that you have taken time to write them, so I can refer back to them as I research.

I just got back from radio shack -- picked up parts for JT COP>1 anomalous phase replication.  I also picked up a some neo magnets and ceramic magnets.  Unfortunately the only magneticly activated solid state sensors they had were a reed relay -- not hall sensors.  I will at least get to experiment with the reed relay and the coils.

I'm placing a larger parts order next week so then maybe I'll snag some hall sensors and reed switches.

By the way , your idea for using the 555 to produce the AC as well as coil shorting pulses is really clever.   Luckily I have a ton of 555 timers.   In any case, I picked up 100' 22 gauge solid core insulated wire to wind the induction coil on some sort of air core. Magnet wire might have been better but that's all they had.

Anyway thanks everyone , let's figure out how to get an open-source inexpensive ($<200) self-runner somehow!

[bolt]

Just a note on Bob Boyce.  Its my understanding after dissecting all the info i can find on it that the toroidal thing he uses is wired as a  3 phase transformer in essence driven by processor for control of very narrow PWM pulses, amplitude  and frequency control. The HF ferrite transformer is driven out of phase to create very high VARS and the cell sits in series with another inductor with a cap across it to make alike RF tuned circuit. This is basic RV technology.

Bob says the overall system from DC to gas has a COP around 3-5 typical. The only reason i mention this is because i seen reference to Bob's stuff having a COP > 1000 and this it not true.  So his devices puts on par with a good MEG but falls way short of Kapanadze COP 100 and the real TPU and VTA has a COP > 1000. Anything with a COP 5 or over should be capable of looping very easy.

Although many people have produced COP 1.2 or 1.8 etc within well tuned Joule Thief's, Bedini wheels and chargers etc you cant loop till you get a COP 2 plus losses to loop it usually means in practice at least COP 2.5  and even then its twitchy as hell to get a motor/gen looped at low COP and will have no power to drive anything else other than barely keep itself going.

These lower COP levels although very real and purposeful  as Energy Savers open a big bag of worms for testing as a million man hours wasted arguing about the correct measurement methods. My suggestion is don't even bother to arguing about it if it works for you then put it to practical use for lighting, pumping, heating whatever.

I will clarify this as a motor generator. Its a COP 3 system.  Lets say my motor drives a generator. My motor needs 100 watts. The generator makes 300 watts as some special coil shorting thing (example only)  Out of that 300 watt i must loop back 200 watts because 100 watts will be lost through the motor, inverter, friction, lead acid battery etc till i get 100 watts i need to power the motor. This means the system is only 50% efficient in terms of losses. But the COP of 3 means i can pass back 200 watts lose 50% to keep the motor going on 100 watts. So im left with left 100 watts OU out of the generator.  This is typical of real life loopers:)

[forest]

the real tricky seems to have device running with gain, aka infinite COP and to stop at the required level of energy before it destroy device

[giantkiller]

From what I have seen is John Hutchison is the only one that uses multiple Tesla coils in a given test. There are no sparks and no spark gaps in the vicinity. Has anybody ever run a Tesla coil with the spark gap at some distance outside the field and/or in a shielding box to seperate the spark gap from inside the harmonic field? Probaly wouldn't create sparks. My thinking is the harmonic resonant field greatly magnifies the spark itself or reproduces it not by step up but by magnetic magnification akin to a magnetic amplifier of a resonant magnetic field in air at great potentials rather than ferrous based core.

Think about that...