Shorting coil gives back more power

[giantkiller]

So each time you wind a half layer you jump back to the middle instead of winding back and forth?

But either way this is so simple to throw two dislike coils on a iron wire. And small too.

I be on dis kwikly.

[bolt]

I have got about 1.7 COP with the mechanical version.I have tested the solid state version too but with simillar results. People where talking here about Magnacoasters and I posted my results.I don't think this one is a hoax but ofcourse, this is my opinion not a crime.This is the reason we are here, to share info.
I have got those results without this type of coil I posted early and after playing with the setup from GAP Power I built this type of coil and got much better results. Since then, I have not done proper measurements but I am confident that this coil will increase the COP.
People should try this type of coil even in other setups and see the results.

All the best,
RomeroUK

VERY well done. That is good news but some of us knew this can work as it was patented LONG before magnacoaster even thought  about it. As you say if you can squeeze a bit more out of it passing COP 2 is damn hard but i think it can be done with cap load switching and perhaps the coil shorting on top of this will help some more.

[Feynman]

@bolt

Watch the Bob Boyce DVD/Vid on google about his stuff he mentions in the vid that his 3 phase toroid produces a total DC to Gas COP of about 4-5.
-bolt

Thanks bolt. I'll check out the DVD tonight. Just for the record, I'm not talking about the Boyce gas thing, I'm talking about the Boyce TPU in rotational or vortex mode (with biased pulsed B-field) and pulses of 1% duty cycle 120 degrees Out-of-phase.  ie. pulses 500ns on, 49.5us off.   Aka. The thing that apparently can self-destruct and vaporize itself, induce lightning strikes, etc.  See this link:

http://feynmanslab.com/docs/tpu/Bob_Boyce_TPU.pdf

And this discussion, where Boyce comes on the thread and has a meltdown over his patent rights, and bitches everyone out:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/showthread.php?496-Bob-Boyce-Hex-Controller-Edited-02-01-2011

Your transformer idea is a good one. I'll try to see if I can snag a 3phase powdered iron core / steel core transformer.  I'm still going to construct a Boyce TPU replication though.

"With the exception of trying a few different core materials the construction using special silver litz wire and covered in bees wax etc is just an expensive waste of time. "
-bolt

I agree regarding the core material ... I think the powdered iron core transformer might be important , because ferrite has too high a permeability.  Boyce even says in that PDF that he couldn't get the effect to work with ferrite.  This might be due to scalar magnetic impulses, which we don't know much about.  That's what I'm after -- experimenting with rotating Tesla scalar waves in a toroid.

Perhaps the SM TPU was an Air-core device which used rotating Tesla scalar waves.

That said, I think the wire material and the winding geometry is also important.

"A 50/60Hz transformer will tend to go into very high ferro-resonance around 150-600Hz with 5% duty cycle so look around there"
-bolt

I think 5% duty cycle might be too much current for what I'm looking for (scalar impulses).  I want really short (100ns - 800ns ON pulses of DC, ~49.5us OFF).  I don't think ferroresonance is the same effect as the Boyce TPU.  But you might be right.  I'm looking to get a rotating magnetic scalar impulse, perhaps even some sort of rotating scalar vortex, so  I want the geometry to be -perfect-.

That's why I want to build the toroid myself .. to military specs.  I want to use the good Teflon coated silver plated copper wire, mainly because Teflon is an excellent insulator/dielectric (it was invented by Dupont and used at Hanford on the Mahanattan Project).   That way, during experiments, I can drive the input primary coils up to 1kV if I want.   Furthermore, as you probably know, Silver has the best heat and electrical conductivity of any element.

So anyway, if I end up wasting my time building a good toroidal wound core, I will send you a free Arduino microcontroller and you can tell me 'told you so' , haha.   

Cheers,
Feynman

[Feynman]

@romerouk

Wow , great explanation.  I'm really impressed with your ideas and I believe your claim of COP of 1.7.   I hope you don't mind if I write them up in a PDF.

I think the idea around here is to get a successful device which we can loop (self-runner)  ,  and then open-source the design , like Linux.

I really appreciate the time and effort you've taken to explain this to me.   I will attempt replication.     Do you have schematics of the driver circuit?  If so , are you willing to release them publicly?  (forgive me if you've already posted them).

Oh also, what's the permeability (u) of your ferrite?  Or at least a part number perhaps...  sometimes this is important, see Naudin's 2SGen where he measures hysteresis curves..

Perhaps we can get the device to COP=2.5 by utilizing an Arduino microcontroller somehow?  These are cheap (<$30), widely available, and can be programmed in Wiring -- a form of Java.

Arduino -- the $30 Microcontroller you can program in Java
http://arduino.cc/

All the best,
Feynman

[romerouk]

So each time you wind a half layer you jump back to the middle instead of winding back and forth?

But either way this is so simple to throw two dislike coils on a iron wire. And small too.

I be on dis kwikly.

Each time you wind a half layer you don't jump but continue winding back and forth.It can be done that way too but not necessary here.
The ferrite core I used is I100/25/25 â€" 3C90, more info about it here: http://www.surplussales.com/inductors/FerPotC/FerPotC-5.html
@Feynman
If you want to put it in a PDF please do.