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Shorting coil gives back more power

Started by romerouk, February 18, 2011, 09:51:45 PM

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gyulasun

#95
February 24, 2011, 06:24:06 PM
Hi Romero,

VERY, VERY GOOD!  Thank you for showing the input current behavior.
If you need help in choosing MOSFET switch, tomorrow I can suggest some.

Greetings,  Gyula


Quote from: romerouk on February 24, 2011, 06:03:53 PM
Test with measurements.
Shorting the coil seems that is not affecting the speed or the power used to drive the rotor.
I am working to replace the reed with mosfets and a hall sensor.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33IQaN-M27U

conradelektro

#96
February 24, 2011, 07:24:11 PM
Thank you Gyula, your explanations (and the video you recommended) made things a lot clearer for me.

@romero: I am always worried about reed switches, their life is rather short. A hall sensor and a MOSFET would be great. May be one needs two MOSFETS, one for the positive and one for the negative side of the sine wave coming from the pick up coil.


Greetings, Conrad

MasterPlaster

#97
February 24, 2011, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: gyulasun on February 24, 2011, 06:13:57 PM
Hi Conrad,

If I may chime in, here is a video from which you can get some explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRyKVU6YzYw


The video is a very good demonstration but there is a big MISTAKE.

There is a drawing shown at the begining of the video which shows a sine wave.
Note that the magnet passing the coil generates a uni-polar wave pulse and not
a sine wave.

Bruce_TPU

#98
February 24, 2011, 09:33:41 PM

Hi Romero,
Quote from: conradelektro on February 24, 2011, 07:24:11 PM
Thank you Gyula, your explanations (and the video you recommended) made things a lot clearer for me.

@romero: I am always worried about reed switches, their life is rather short. A hall sensor and a MOSFET would be great. May be one needs two MOSFETS, one for the positive and one for the negative side of the sine wave coming from the pick up coil.


Greetings, Conrad
I believe that Conrad is correct in the following...

You can double down on the effect by shorting the coil at both the peak of the spike and the center of the notch (negative). This alone should double your output.

Good luck! 
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

teslaalset

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February 25, 2011, 04:11:41 AM
Quote from: MasterPlaster on February 24, 2011, 08:09:23 PM
The video is a very good demonstration but there is a big MISTAKE.

There is a drawing shown at the begining of the video which shows a sine wave.
Note that the magnet passing the coil generates a uni-polar wave pulse and not
a sine wave.

@Masterplaster,
This depends  on the North/Southpole orientation of the magnets that are used.
If they N/S axis is pointing to the centre of the wheel you will have a different waveshape than when the N/S axis is pointing parallel to the outer side of the wheel.
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