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Joerg Raimund Hempel and his Ionic Magnetic Power IMP CAP Charging

Started by hartiberlin, March 03, 2011, 08:08:48 PM

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sysrun

Some details (in german): http://www.patent-de.com/20100429/DE102008053407A1.html

"Ein handelsüblicher Lithium-Ionen-Akku 2, hier vom Typ SAMSUNG SF US 18650 GR mit einer Nennspannung von 3,7 V wird bestückt mit zwei Magnetstreifen 1. Die Magnetstreifen vom Typ 3M 300LSE, Dauermagnetband MG01317 Plastinorm sind auf die Länge des Akkus 2 zugeschnitten und sich diametral gegenüberliegend parallel zur Längsachse des Akkus auf dem Akkumantel angebracht. Wie 1c zeigt, weisen die Magnetstreifen 1 eine sich abwechselnde Polung auf, die sich jeweils parallel zur Längserstreckung des Magnetstreifens erstreckt. Der verwendete Akku weist keine Schutzschaltung auf."

Lion Type: SAMSUNG SF US 18650 GR
Mag Tape: 3M MGO 1317 PLASTINORM

bolt

Quote from: sysrun on March 05, 2011, 04:55:36 AM
Some details (in german): http://www.patent-de.com/20100429/DE102008053407A1.html

"Ein handelsüblicher Lithium-Ionen-Akku 2, hier vom Typ SAMSUNG SF US 18650 GR mit einer Nennspannung von 3,7 V wird bestückt mit zwei Magnetstreifen 1. Die Magnetstreifen vom Typ 3M 300LSE, Dauermagnetband MG01317 Plastinorm sind auf die Länge des Akkus 2 zugeschnitten und sich diametral gegenüberliegend parallel zur Längsachse des Akkus auf dem Akkumantel angebracht. Wie 1c zeigt, weisen die Magnetstreifen 1 eine sich abwechselnde Polung auf, die sich jeweils parallel zur Längserstreckung des Magnetstreifens erstreckt. Der verwendete Akku weist keine Schutzschaltung auf."

Lion Type: SAMSUNG SF US 18650 GR
Mag Tape: 3M MGO 1317 PLASTINORM

You could have least posted a translation!


"A standard lithium-ion battery 2, in this type SAMSUNG SF U.S.
18 650 GR with a rated voltage of 3.7 V is equipped with two
Magnetic stripe first The magnetic strips of type 3M 300LSE permanent magnetic tape,
MG01317 Plastinorm are tailored to the length of the battery 2 and the
diametrically opposite parallel to the longitudinal axis of the battery on the
Battery jacket are attached. How 1c shows the magnetic strips 1 have a
alternating polarity, which are parallel to each
Longitudinal extent of the magnetic stripe extends. The battery pack has
no protection circuit. "

Lion Type: SAMSUNG SF U.S. 18 650 GR
Mag Tape: 3M 1317 MGO PLASTINORM


So i understand the magnetic strip now you MUST buy both A and B strips and and apply one of each to each face of the battery. In which case ebay has hundreds of sellers of this stuff. Batteries are best to buy Radio Control Lipo as they have no protection built in.

sysrun

"Wie der in 1b dargestellt Querschnitt zeigt wird der Akku 2 zusammen mit den Magnetstreifen 1 von einer dielektrischen Folie 3 umhüllt, auf der gemäß einer Ausführungsform der vorliegenden Erfindung eine Aluminiumfolie angebracht ist, die den Zylindermantel des Akkus vollständig einhüllt.

Der hier gezeigte Lithium-Ionen-Akku ist gewickelt, ähnlich einem Elko-Kondensator."


The battery  is coated with the magnetic strip with a dielectric film on which an aluminum foil is attached, which surrounds the cylindrical casing of the battery completely. The shown lithium-ion battery is similar to a capacitor.


@bolt: What you mean? "A and B strips" ?

The 300LSE-Tape is a simple double-sided tape. Maybe the "dielectric film" quoted above?

dutchy1966

Hi All,

Attached is a drawing from the (german) patent. From there it gets clear that the magnetic tape is stuck to the Li cell with double faced tape, just to hold it in place. The magnetic tape itself is MGO 1317 . It has has "lanes" of north and south poles along it length. This can be clerly seen in the drawing and is also explained in the text of the patent.
The tape is found here:
h**p://catalogue.3m.eu/en_EU/EU-IATD/3M_Reclosable_Fastening_Systems/Magnetic_Tape/td~Magnetic_Tape~MGO_1317/Magnetic_Tape#

regards

Dutchy

neptune

@sysrun.A dielectric film is mentioned , applied to the aluminium foil . Capacitor dielectrics can take many forms , air , mica ,plastic etc , or the paste in an electrolytic capacitor .Perhaps it is this paste being referred to .  Is it not strange how what appears as a simple device always becomes complicated .The devil is in the detail , as ever . This idea is special , as it probably lends itself to home construction .