The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[dieter]

Boots,


You may try that, but it sounds like a lot of work. Basicly, in a transformer the phase shift is in 90° when there is no load. What does that mean? A load means we let the current flow in the secondary. Only then it causes the opposing magnetic field. This field or flow will force the primary in 0° phase IF IT REACHES THE PRIMARY. At this point, we have to confess that science  does not fully understand induction yet (just like gravity): the core does arrange the magnetic flux, practicly absorbs any surrounding "fieldlines", so why in the world should those field lines have any impact on the copper in the secondary at all, they never get close! (see also Dollard lectures about this subject). My intuitive interpretation is: They don't. The magnetic field does not cause the current directly, but when the atomic structure is released from the magnetic field, they snap back to their basic equilibrium and this motion causes a pulse of a certain mysterious, yet unknown energy or radiation  that kicks asses of surrounding copper electrons. This explains why a current is induced only when the magnetical field changes. Very intuitive  .


Basicly, we just have to care about the opposite field, or Back MMF. We need something like a magnetical diode.


Heins approach was, to offer a big outer core to the BMMF, so it won't fight the MMF of the primary. You said, it didn't work, ok. I also still see a problem in that design, because the BMMF like any MMF wants to close a loop, but faces a like pole from the other secondary and cannot effectively close that loop. It may be better to use only one secondary, as seen in early Heins designs.


I think for the Gabriel device the same principle applies. Trap the BMMF in a seperate core, but don't let the Forward MMF use that seperate core to skip the secondary coils. Be aware of airgaps, even thin insulations or uneven surfaces, act as a substancial barrier to the magnetical flux, so you should isolate only the top of the plate, as thin as possible.


This may be the basic philosophy you have to follow, separate the BMMF from the primary flux. knowing that the BMMF appears only during field changes, which means in a AC transformer at the primary peak voltages there is NO BMMF, but as the wave rises or sinks, there is most BMMF, so while the primary voltage AND field is zero, the BMMF is fully active.


Gyulasun,


well that's bad news. Clearly, those who read are in advantage  .


But I have to say, I am having problems with this explanation. Scope needs DC coupling? The hole thing in every aspect is about AC, so why DC coupling? But ok, but then the mover/exiter energized the alternator coincedently? Come on. (not losing speed on load is fundamental) Maybe it was just Lucs Belief that was lost on the run and this altered reality on a omnidimensional quantum space level? Or Luc was replaced by a naysaying Android made in Langley  . kidding.
I hear your words, but I have to say, I've heard this before and I personally made successful tests: You can bring your current out of phase with caps and yet consume energy from the circuit. I was even capable of getting more output than without phase shift, so to me this chapter is not yet closed.


Theoreticly, when you feed a transformer with a +90° current, then it should run with a 0° phase unloaded, but with a +90° current when fully loaded.
Whether this is free energy or just tricking the power company is an other question tho.


Regards

[Real Boots]

Dieter;
I am starting to think the concept of flux is flawed and not reflective of what is going on.  I measure the inductance of my primary and it is something like 100mh but keeps dropping on the meter with secondary open cct.  When I short the secondary it immediately drops to the 4 to 5 mH range.  This tells me that no matter the magnitude of the primary current there is immediate reflection into primary to cause the current to rise when load is applied. 
The interesting thing I am seeing is that when you overload the secondary with very light primary mmf ( 6 vac) the secondary goes further out of phase.  In normal transfo the two should get closer in phase when load is applied. 
There is still reflection here as primary current does rise much more than what is phase shifted.  In fact power measurements show it eats much more energy than secondary produces in this condition. 
The flux concept must be flawed, perhaps we need to think of this as not field lines themselves but as applied field gradients following the natural curvature in space time that must be created along its own axis by the presence of the high perm material itself(iron core and steel shield)? 
Starting to think the iron has virtual field lines that become real as applied field fills the iron, that is why my inductance meter sees secondary core and not shielded as you may expect by the outer core.
With the design I chose to build it is possible to thicken the shell, i may need to do this to get further useful data to see what difference and trends we see.
-boots

[AquariuZ]

What happened to user Mavendex?

Looks like he pretty much proven the concept here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt5Mjau_Ehk

So where is he?
Why no new videos?

Last post two years ago he said he wanted to scale up.

[dieter]

Boots,


I totally agree about the "fieldlines" being a simplification, mainly invented to allow for simple 2D illustration in school books. When you watch a ferromagnetofluid in action, it becomes more clear how the field interacts.


I prefer the term "magnetical vector" instead of field, because it isn't just a field, but a force and a direction. On the ferromagnetic side it is an anomaly in gravity. Probably more mysterious is the electroinductive property. The elementary magnets in eg. iron, as they are called, the tiny partical features, are then elementary magnet vectors. Chaoticly aligned in the matter.  As a magnetical vector may also use air, the elementary magnet vectors EMV must be a feature of a particle that can be found in any matter, most likely part of the proton or electron or both. In ferromagnetic matter this feature must be highly increased, which we may consider being a useful marker in order to understand the processes.


Additionally there seems to be almost something like intelligence when a path can be closed. The magnetical path acts like a jetstream trough matter, including air, but especially iron. "Don't seek no longer, we have found the path!" seem the EMVs on the path to say to the other ones, and indeed, they relax and go into their chaotical equilibrium, while in the jetstream every available EMV is drafted to be aligned with the macro vector.


Got to eat my dinner before it's burned, so... to be continued...

[dieter]

continuing...
So this jetstream between north and south is probably what Ledskalnin meant by "Magnetical Current".


The saturation of a core seems to be the result of a copper coil, being able to transfer its area of impact from its own atoms to the core mass, which indicates that EMV activity is not bound to the atoms of the coil itself, but to the "radiant radiation"    of the coil, that is not magnetism by itself, but is cumulated in surrounding permeability peak areas. This explains jetstreams, at least partially.


There may be a reverse mechanism, where EMV activity in a core causes an Anti radiation that is able to cumulate in nearby matter of high electrical conductivity and finally causes electron charge separation, known as induction. Both processes may run simultanously.
Well, there's a lot of things to learn and to understand.


Your measurement of inductance seems to be fine when you consider that a small current is sent trough the probes. The shell does not shield because the secondary picks up the magnetism and forwards it to the inner core. I bet in the inner core the MMF is out of phase.


Nonetheless, the primary can see the inner core because first of all coupling is fine, and second of all  the probe current is extremly small, so any BMMF can easily build a parallel path to the MMF path in the same core part. At least I think so.


Having losses as you described could be due to eddy currents, but since we are playing with the phase shift you should also keep an eye on the unloaded phase to see if it dissipates due to an angle other than 90°, and, if you like, try to push it to +90° or -90° with a cap in series, to see if it makes any diffrence.


Regards