The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[Magluvin]

Doesn't the fact that the secondary coil gets the induced secondary voltage proof that the shell does not isolate the primary magnetic field to the secondary coil? I know that it sounds intuitive that the secondary flux is contained to the inner core and is isolated from the primary, but the equation related to Faraday's law integrates the magnetic field over the area enclosed by the current loop, and this includes the inner core area.
ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday's_law_of_induction

/Wayne

Well your right. The shell does allow primary to secondary connection. It has to, or no output.  What we are looking for is the field lines induced have to cut the sec windings, and the inner core is the destination. But, and I thought about this at work, the secondary field produced when current flows through it, only ever makes it to the shell and not beyond, thus never cutting the conductors from the primary.  ;]

Here is a pdf that shows how fields propagate in a transformer. once you get this, my theory works. =]

Mags

[Magluvin]

edited due to double post.

the site runs really slow for me at times and it seems locked up, so I hit post again, thus 2 posts.  I didnt realize it till I just reread.

It seems to be getting slowed down on the chikita info and some google ad stuff.  not always.   The ads make it nearly impossible to be here on my web phone. All other sites are fine on the phone.
I only load the front page from my phone sometimes at work to see whats up. But i have to set the phone down and come back later  to see.

Mags

[forest]

Tesla patent, magnetic shell between primary and secondary. Better to user soft-iron pieces or wires but it's not easy to assemble.

Hmm,Tesla didn't left much to invent   

[Magluvin]

Hey Forest

Which pat is that. I was going to go look for one, as it seems he has invented everything. ;]  I thought that also.

This is big Forest.  ;]

Mags

[e2matrix]

Yes, I see your point.  I may not have been clear enough?  What I meant was connect the hot lead from one plug to the hot lead of another plug on the same circuit (ideally) or else the hot lead of another plug on another circuit in the same power mains system.  No sparks?  Hopefully??Sure, that would be the answer, but it would be an expensive one.  I was thinking of an (potentially?  admittedly?) kluge answer that doesn't involve complexity or a lot of money.

--Lee

Sounds good and glad that's what you intended.  It looks like Mavendex understood you better.  I don't know most people's expertise and if I seem something that sounds dangerous I like to make sure none of us makes a bad name for FE research