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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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kampen

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wayne49s

Quote from: Magluvin on March 25, 2011, 05:45:11 PM
But, and I thought about this at work, the secondary field produced when current flows through it, only ever makes it to the shell and not beyond, thus never cutting the primary conductors  ;]

Here is a pdf that shows how fields propagate in a transformer. once you get this, my theory works. =]
Interesting paper and website.. expands the understanding beyond the classic view. I can see that the secondary flux field will be diminished beyond the shell because it has limited permeability; so the reason for the COP=8 and not infinity.  Also indicates that a higher permeability gradient between the shell and inner core may have higher COP. Thanks for the insight.

/Wayne

Magluvin

Hey Wayne

Was thinking of if the primary field is able to get through the shell, why cant the secondary.   Then I remembered the sec has its own core, of which will attract most if not all of the sec field. Also The primary is right on the surface of the shell, so maybe as fields build around a wire, the first ones to appear expand outward as new ones are created.  Either way, maybe the further away, as in the shell from the sec, the sec fields lines, that get to the shell, dont have the pressure to escape beyond the shell to cut the primary windings.


This is just thoughts so far, but i think its the right track. ;]

Mags

twinbeard

Flux will seek the path of least reluctance... :)

Magluvin

Quote from: twinbeard on March 25, 2011, 08:08:55 PM
Flux will seek the path of least reluctance... :)

Yep.   They been spanking us around all these years with these regular transformers. Same as piston engines. 30% eff

I have seen transformers that have the core laminates welded in areas around the core. Thats just great.  make and insulate the laminates to reduce core losses, then just weld across to connect them again.

Ive also seen where the windings are separated instead of on top of one another, and between the windings, more smaller stack of laminated core material magnetically connecting the outer cores to the inner core, between the windings.  More eff losses.  Crazy

Mags