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The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

Started by Feynman, March 22, 2011, 04:07:09 PM

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Mavendex

I was thinking that as well but the Tesla version shell is the same gauge of steel maybe a smidge thicker and wouldn't go I added more turns and still nothing, Ive ran into this before and I really think its a permeability issue either in the inner core or outer core or both.

The 30ku core will show us alot of information, I really think if the Tesla version was built it must have been enormous possibly 2ft. which is Teslas day would have been a small transformer I'm sure hehe.

SchubertReijiMaigo

I understand better now, since you can (in the Tesla version) have a huge huge inner core with same permability that the outer...
Heins effect is basically a reluctance difference between two circuits, well OK.
You can act on reluctance not only with permeability but also with the magnetic path length, the section S, so you can have two same materials but with totally different reluctance since you can play with other variable !!!
This is what I understand you better now when you tell the Tesla version must be very very huge and heavy also !!!
But with nanoperm you have ameliorated the effect by reducing size and weight and increasing the reluctance gradient !!!

I have watched some B-H curve and when a metal (no matter initial permeability) is fully saturated like the screen, the permeability is one or nearly one, the metal is like air but act like a screen also !!! So you have a huge permeability (and reluctance of course) gradient between inner and outer...

Good news !, today my father will start to cut the shell, apparently this is dangerous because the dreemel can slip, and no society (in France) can cut it with laser  >:(  (it's a donut like yours)...

Cheers, Schubert.

JouleSeeker

I've been following this interesting thread for some months... Two questions, please:

1.  Does anyone know where Feynman is -- the fellow who started this thread?  I thought he was doing good work, and I hope he is alright.

2.  Has anyone heard of the following device ?   It seems to have some similarities with the Gabriel device.


I've been working on alt-energy for years, and in particular, the device below has caught my attention because of its simplicity and because of REAL TESTS demonstrated -- NOTES IN GERMAN -- NEED TRANSLATING HELP!

http://philica.com/display_observation.php?observation_id=61

Demonstration of the device to "1500 people" by H. Schnelzer; sketch of device by J. Horvath; acquired from Horvath; article in Philica by C. Turtur.

I quote from the article below, and I will attach the drawing from the written-PDF for convenience.

1. Are there any replications? Anyone?

2. Can anyone translate the German on the sketch?

3. " It is said, that the device has been inspected and certified by TÜV-München, by measuring input- and output power and temperature." -- is there any record of these tests?  Can anyone help locate these tests and their results?

Quote
Proposal for a test of a motionless zero-point-energy converter

Claus W. Turturconfirmed userThis person has donated to Philica (Fachbereich Elektrotechnik, University of Applied Sciences Braunschweig-Wolfenbuettel)

Published in physic.philica.com

Observation
Abstract:
The proposal describes tapping an unknown energy-source, told to operate years ago, but not yet reproduced. The principle is unexplained. The setup came from Prof. S. Marinov of Sofia University via a colleague at Vienna University. A setup has been confirmed by the TÜV-München.

Article body:
In 1989-91 the colleague reported about investigations on a special transformator consisting of magnets and coils.
(drawing: http://www.ostfalia.de/export/sites/default/de/pws/turtur/FundE/English/MLMC2.pdf)
The hysteresis loop was passed by applying a pulsed current to the primary coil. Surprisingly, the secondary coil was said to produce more electric power than the primary coil needed, depending on the pulse-width of the primary pulses. Discussion of the reason: Inertance of magnetization due to the Barkhausen-effect might delay the decrease of the magnetic flux in the magnets.
In 1990/91 the Austrian Engineer H. Schnelzer reproduced the setup using an electric circuit supplying short 7kAmp-pulses by IGBTs, sourced from a car-accumulator. At a demonstration at Scheibbs, 1500 people saw an output power of about 2.1kW (driving a heater and a lamp) for 90 minutes, i.d. more than 3kWh. But the accumulator only had 50Ah/12V, i.e. a power-capacity of maximal 0.6kWh. Furthermore the accumulator did not discharge. It is said, that the device has been inspected and certified by TÜV-München, by measuring input- and output-power and temperature.
Important is an air gap in the yoke as well as high current IGBTs (Driving those IGBTs is today easy doable with Analog Devices ADUM5230 (2.5kV) ADUM7234 (1kV) (Isolation rating), or other Isolated-Gate Drivers). The IGBTs (4 pieces, H-bridge-circuit) of Mr. Schnelzer had a turn-on time of 1µs / ~7000A at 1000V.

Authors: Johannes Horvath, Claus Turtur
Address: University of Applied Sciences Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel

Cheap4All

This newest iteration of the device looks very interesting. The middle magnet appears to be off centre, that is, its like two thirds in the primary side and one third in the secondary side.
If someone is able to translate the german, would it be possible to also re-draw it more clearly along with the english wording ? Thanking you in advance.

importfanatik

Quote from: JouleSeeker on July 27, 2011, 02:06:20 AM
I've been following this interesting thread for some months... Two questions, please:

1.  Does anyone know where Feynman is -- the fellow who started this thread?  I thought he was doing good work, and I hope he is alright.

2.  Has anyone heard of the following device ?   It seems to have some similarities with the Gabriel device.


I've been working on alt-energy for years, and in particular, the device below has caught my attention because of its simplicity and because of REAL TESTS demonstrated -- NOTES IN GERMAN -- NEED TRANSLATING HELP!

http://philica.com/display_observation.php?observation_id=61

Demonstration of the device to "1500 people" by H. Schnelzer; sketch of device by J. Horvath; acquired from Horvath; article in Philica by C. Turtur.

I quote from the article below, and I will attach the drawing from the written-PDF for convenience.

1. Are there any replications? Anyone?

2. Can anyone translate the German on the sketch?

3. " It is said, that the device has been inspected and certified by TÜV-München, by measuring input- and output power and temperature." -- is there any record of these tests?  Can anyone help locate these tests and their results?

Look up parallel path, or flux switching,. there are many different attempts using this theory.
to name afew:
Fluxite
Hildenbrand
Magnacoaster
Tom Bearden's MEG

Please start a new thread if you want to discuss this.
Thank you