The Gabriel Device, possible COP=8

[matthewklinko]

Unless your using tin-plated twisted pair copper wire for your primary, This rather large shell and the same core your not doing the first build your doing your modification which your having trouble with and want help for which I gave you a fix IE shorted turns.

Hello Mav ok i didn't know you used twisted pair tin plated copper wire for the primary, did you use the wire in parallel ?

Also have you tried running a load from your sec shorted turns instead of shorting, or running in parallel with the other secondary? Closer to thanes design, with 2 secondary coils?

[forest]

I don't know if you find it useful but here are my personal thoughts : if I could test it myself I would first try to find matching capacitor in primary forming parallel LCR circuit, then the same for secondary. You should immediately see the problem with low inductance in primary needing large capacitor, in secondary LCR should be possible easier.Unfortunately I don't have high permeability core (only soft iron segmented one like Tesla) which is the big problem (can't find capacitor for 50Hz to 800Hz resonance (resonable for iron core)) -  yet, I have that transformer almost ready for testing  .So ,this would be my first step anyway, but unfortunately this device is the last on my list of 4 to 10 to complete before (with tests) . 
I never well understood all those pf issues but in simple words , what you need is the magnetic field of shield collapse adding current in phase with primary LCR capacitor exactly at the moment when power source is charging it.Symphatetic resonance.
With proper LCR parallel resonance it should be possible to use AC-DC inverter powering primary at lower amperage then in original case.

[SchubertReijiMaigo]

@ Forest: good idea to use LCR, but problem unless you use Transverter diode plug 2 PH or 3 PH Motors/Transformers with high Q LCR, the R will be reflected to the source fully... In single phase without arrangement R will be always reflected as R (IE PF=1) and totally... You don't need this special two toroid trafo. For this, a simple single phase (with special extraction circuit) or 2, 3 phases, R is reflected in the leading/lagging phase, in a rotating field, not or less to source (Q factor and tuning dependant).

[Mavendex]

@ Matt I utilized the reverse charge flow that tesla mentioned to increase magnetic field strength with his bifilar designs, only changed it slightly to fit to this design. (Draw back to twisted pair, tinned wire is really flipping expensive, plus I like the shorted turns it allows a much easier, faster build)
the shorted turn has a whopping 2.3 volts per coming out of it so basically its just doing the job that its intended for.

[matthewklinko]

@ Matt I utilized the reverse charge flow that tesla mentioned to increase magnetic field strength with his bifilar designs, only changed it slightly to fit to this design. (Draw back to twisted pair, tinned wire is really flipping expensive, plus I like the shorted turns it allows a much easier, faster build)
the shorted turn has a whopping 2.3 volts per coming out of it so basically its just doing the job that its intended for.

Hello Mav

Are you saying that your secondary voltage and also the voltage across your shorted turns doesn't vary with primary voltage. You said you get a 0.11 V per turn on secondary, and a 2.3V per turn on your shorted turns (15 turns?).

So does that mean as you vary the primary voltage through the variac the secondary voltage doesn't change, as it only depends on the number of turns?




Also do you believe the reason I'm not getting a phase shift is because I'm using a mild steel donut shell, and not a cold rolled steel shell.

Have you had experience with mild steel?