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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mrwayne

To all,
I took the time to respond to the mass of accusations and disinformation,
The pattern is clear - Each time you make progress, the barrage of four or five pages of misdirection. And when those do not work, personal attack (I am not referring to TK).
It is clear to those who truly follow this thread - we are about getting to the bottom of questions.
M was right, and to add to his statement - the world deserves to know what we have.
I profit nothing from sharing - and I give up valuable time - but I respect your time - those who diligently seek the answers - so let's move on.
I understand a few of you have some really great work to share - I look forward to it!
I challenged this group with a 2K challenge Webby won -
I also offer Se3d 5K to build an education model with his molding and extrusion experience - I think he is about to collect ;-)
We have great things ahead of us - as M. said - this is not about us - I agree and add  - we need to avoid those that try to make it so.
Again - as we succeed - your lives will be improved for the better in many ways!
Wayne Travis.


MileHigh

LarryC:

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A hydraulic accumulator is a pressure storage reservoir in which a non-compressible hydraulic fluid is held under pressure by an external source. The external source can be a spring, a raised weight, or a compressed gas. An accumulator enables a hydraulic system to cope with extremes of demand using a less powerful pump, to respond more quickly to a temporary demand, and to smooth out pulsations. It is a type of energy storage device.
Compressed gas accumulators, also called hydro-pneumatic accumulators, are by far the most common type.

Yes I fully agree.  A hydraulic accumulator is a form of mechanical energy storage, sometimes it can look exactly like a mechanical capacitor.  The problem remains as I stated it, "X cubic inches of a non-compressible fluid at Y PSI" tells you nothing at all about how much energy is stored in the hydraulic accumulator.  There is no energy stored in the non-compressible fluid itself, none.

The non-compressible fluid is just a passive component that makes up part of the hydraulic accumulator.  So the TK phrase I quoted where he compared two different volumes of non-compressible fluid does not tell you anything.  What is not known is the "path" that gets the fluid up to that pressure.  Without knowing the path you can't perform the integration and so you have nothing to go on.

Wayne:  You can try to demonize me all you want but my questions posted a few days ago did not attack anybody and were legitimate questions.  There was no "disinformation" or "misdirection" inherent in them.  In my opinion all that you are doing is demasking yourself when you do that so others can see you more clearly.

MileHigh

mondrasek

Quote from: mondrasek on August 11, 2012, 01:47:04 PM
I recommend everyone take a short time out.  Maybe an hour or two?

Just to clarify for the majority of the world:

One to two hours of my US time is about 60 to 120 minutes of metric time.

Thanks,

M.

mrwayne

MH,

I do agree that this time round - I noticed improvement.

You referenced the lack of responses in the past to your questions - which were not respectful - I made it clear why I did not answer those questions:
And - I will not respond to questions laced with insinuations etc. - and that will still be my position to all.
You also referenced that "lack of response" to those "laden questions" as proof I was evading answering - you were very clear.
It was a clear misrepresentation of the facts.

Thank you for your efforts. I did notice you were not as rude as last time.

Are we ready to move on, to questions pertaining to the discussion? I am.
Wayne

mondrasek

So, here in the US you can buy soda (Pepsi, Coke, etc.) in 2-liter containers made of PETE.  They appear to be about 4 inches (~101.6 mm) in diameter.  The vertical height of the straight walled section appears to be about 6 inches (~152.4 mm).

I think these can be as easy to find and work with as the tennis ball tubes that @neptune used.

They have the same problems though...  How to bond them into smaller cylinders?  What end cap materials to use and how to bond those?  Et cetera.

But they are (like @neptune's solution) very thin walled and easily available (at least here in the US).

M.