Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[MT]

@MT. I am pleased to see that you are experimenting. Can I just point out a common cause of confusion. People often use the word MODEL. And they, themselves know exactly what they mean. Unfortunately this word is ambiguous, in that it has multiple meanings. At least three are applicable here.
1. A mathematical model, where mathematics is used to describe the action.
2.A computer simulation
3. A real world replication of a real world machine often smaller than the original, but mimicking some or all of its actions.
Some people talk of a physical model, but this could be the same as 3 above , or could be a theoretical proof base on Physics. So may I suggest that we use the term "Real World Model" when we mean 3 above. So tell us please exactly what type of model you are describing.

Hi neptune,
I'm afraid I'm not fitting any. Before weekend I felt like I need to internalize the effect using concepts I can understand. For me is inverse TE more intuitive to think about. I see it as a weight amplification system. Smaller amount of water results in a bigger increase of weight. I tried to model complete cycle how 1 riser could work. Attached are 4 drawings.


1. initial step -  lever is in balance. Left side 2kg weight, on right side is 3l bucket (30cm high, 10cm for each liter). Pod hanging from top take 90% of bucket volume. I abstracted from whether it is cylinder or square, water can take max 0.3l volume around pod. I think it is clear 0.2l makes right side weighting 2kg.
2. charging step - Lever is locked. Adding 100g(0.1liter) of water on right side at the top level of the pod! This is our input. Charged right side gets weight 3kg.
3. stroke step -  unlock the lever. Allow lowering right side by 1cm. This movement does work. I do not dare to calculate it but it is clear that there is disbalance of 1kg at 0cm distance on right side and this disbalance decreases to 0kg at exactly 1 cm distance. Water level decreases to the level in step 1.
4. closing loop step - now to get back to the charged step we need to apply force on left side over 1cm. Starting at 0kg and linearly increasing it to 1kg over distance 1cm. Producing step 3 makes force going from 1kg to 0kg, this step needs force going from 0kg to 1kg over 1cm, so inverse. I think it is clear that work done in step 3 equals work needed to be done in step4.


kind regards,
Marcel

[Gwandau]

Dear Mr.Waynes, allow me to adress this question to everybody involved in this discussion.

Guys, I watched a quite interesting video demonstrating an oddment in regard to Archimedes principle, if not an open violation.
Unfortunately I cannot find the youtube link, but I recall quite clearly the parameters involved in the demonstration.

Is this what it is all about, is this the differential employed by Mr.Wayne? :

regards,
Gwandau

The significance with this experiment becomes obvious when the minimum weight needed to keep the right cylinder down, still keeps the cylinder with greater air volume inside the left cylinder from rising. If anyone has an explanation for this oddity, please respond.

[MileHigh]

Quote from: LarryC on August 13, 2012, 05:18:48 PM

Great news, must have missed your original post. PM me if you need any improvement in the 'Travis Effect Material Take off Square Shape-4 Riser', like more than 4 Risers.

@Wayne,

Thanks, good explanations. And you're right, I should stick to my goal of helping those who want to learn to understand and

not waste time with the deceivers. Unfortunately, I don't have your Christ like patience.

Regards, Larry

Patience yes, but not that much, all I can say is that when I accepted the responsibility of bringing the machine to the world - I would not waiver or be mislead - by those who would wish I did not.
I also witnessed the mistakes made by Rossi and Kwok - anger might fuel a few people - but to keep your ground  and character - patience is better - and the truth is the best.
I appreciate a good argument, when one really exists. 
Wayne
Well, I am no deceiver, that's for sure.  And I made a really sound argument.  I think that it's too strong to deal with so pretending it doesn't exist keeps the buzz going.

Who is the real deceiver will all come out in the wash eventually.  I can predict with great confidence that not a single erg of excess or free energy or whatever you want to call it will be produced by one of these systems by December 31, 2012.

MileHigh

[phwest]

Neptune,
Cisco I think you meant 1149.

No problem, I would think that by now some basic research would’ve be done on the net and coupled with creativity, would have led most attempting replicators to the following sites among the many.
So these maybe of interest if you haven’t found them yet:

http://www.specialtybottle.com/amberpetbostonroundplasticbottlesmi.aspx
http://www.specialtybottle.com/naturalplasticbottlesmi.aspx
http://www.sks-bottle.com/340c/fin19.html
http://www.freundcontainer.com/kautex-textron-plastic-containers-kautex-wide-mouth-leak-proof-plastic-jars-hdpe/p/v3977B01/
http://www.visipak.com/clear-plastic-tubing.shtml


Note the varying available diameters and types. Look around mix and match from different suppliers to get more options. It may shave you time making your own cylinders. You can still use the standard soda bottles to supplement sizes and the final external container 2L bottles and so on.
They go from less than a buck to couple a piece. You may try a request for a free samples when they are sold by the case.
The last link has the tennis ball tubes and associated products
If you dig deeper, wall thicknesses are in the .015”to .025’ area some maybe more.
Blow molding process. Most made of LDPE HDPE and PET, and if you really want to get into the nitty gritty, pressure stress/strain calculations, use the matl properties, hoop stresses, deformations etc,
The “pod” can also by made by the smaller ones Instead of machining a piece of metal. Use the smaller bottles, fill it with sand, and styrofoam grinds or whatever, to provide extra strength against collapse (highly doubtful) to get at  your desired buoyancy level your setup requires for the pod.

Tubing, can be from aquarium, or your local hardware store would have a variety of diameters and types. Sold by the foot for pennies. For tube fittings, just go to your local party store, get for 0.15$ the tube, about ¼” diameter 16” long thin wall with a movable flange on it, that they use for those helium balloons. Cut the tube to length use the flange or make your own for added handling strength and gluing surface, drill hole(s) on the bottle where you need access, or the bottle cup for the external water reservoirs some silicone, rubber glue…

The setup is small, so for accurate measuring of differential weights, visit your local pharmacy, ask for the graduated plastic syringes. You can get them for free one or two samples etc. You can measure and dispense water fairly accurately for increments down to tenths of a cc.

Stay creative, have fun.
I hope this helps

[MileHigh]

Gwandau:

Guys, I watched a quite interesting video demonstrating an oddment in regard to Archimedes principle, if not an open violation.
Unfortunately I cannot find the youtube link, but I recall quite clearly the parameters involved in the demonstration.

Is this what it is all about, is this the differential employed by Mr.Wayne? :

The setup on the right will have much more buoyancy and there is no violation.

MileHigh