Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[MileHigh]

Something for all of you to think about:

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[neptune]

@Red_Sunset. I agree with what you say, Low input, low risk, poor results. The problem is, in this age of information, we suffer info overload. The only survival strategy that works, is to decide what to absorb, and what to reject. As we get older and set in our ways we become less receptive to new ideas. Claims for overunity are a dime a dozen, and the rate of their presentation is rising exponentially.
       Good luck to all those who will try to understand without guarantee of big final results. But remember that nothing succeeds like success.That is why I think that validation is important for a lot of people.
@ Webby1. You say there are limitations and advantages. Another way to say this is "Terms and conditions apply."

[powercat]

neptune
Come on... low input low gain look at all the input by Tk all those videos and tests
has he found Overunity ? and we have seen negative results from another member
who is also getting his hands went.......  Facts and reality are what counts

You have been here more than enough years to know yourself how many times this forum
has been  convinced by a claim of Overunity only to find out later it's not true

I do take your point, and I will try to post less since I'm not doing any actual testing.
the problem is Red_sunset arrogant attitude to anyone that might question the validity
of Wayne's device.  (sorry I don't believe in blind faith)

[Xaverius]

Validation, the "yes or no" is dependent on the way how you look at the whole picture,
Wayne knows what his system does, he doesn't need the validation, but he sure he needs to convince other outside people and therein the validation is a technical business milestone to progress to the next stage in his planned business path,  which is commercialization.  If you see yourself as a future part of his direct or related business activity, I can see the importance.

From a science and technical  viewpoint, it importance is greatly diminished except for the "second opinion confirmation value". 
If the skeptics need to rely on Mark Dansie confirmation to home, what is their worth then?.  Isn't their assessment based on good and proper science principles, as has been mentioned throughout this thread.
I would expect a skeptic worth his salt (who thinks he knows what he is talking about) to cry foul when Mark confirms that the Zed works.  The fist accusations leveled could be that Mark is in a conspiracy with Wayne.

Regarding the statement "the validation would enable this team to finally move forward with this project",  Moving forward to what ?  The pretty HER animation shown is already a model T-ford,  the validation will be be done on the next generation system which only resembles in a small part the model-T.  So for moving forward, most people here have already missed the bus in petty squabbles that stifled progress. The system will go from here under cover to protect business advantage as it moves into the future.

The forum had the full attention of an experienced inventor how wanted to educate ( lay the basis to create inventors, not dump knowledge), but the relationship process of teacher<-> student was reversed due to immaturity that muffled the teacher with the tragic results seen.  In retrospect I can only ay that Wayne's good idea was to ambitious and the attendees to immature, possibly caused by mismatched expectations on both sides.

Golden opportunities have been lost for all (with or without validation)

Moving forward to implementation of this technology to the world.  Validation is the next crucial step, without it this device cannot be sold.

If Mark Dansie is in a conspiracy with Wayne(very unlikely) then this could be the scam of the century.  It would be totally foolish because with their exposure they would both likely end up in prison.

Why are Golden opportunities lost?  Which ones and how?

[powercat]

And with this TK also noted and interesting effect he was seeing with his Tinselzed Heron pump.