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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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Red_Sunset

Quote from: powercat on November 05, 2012, 03:58:12 PM
I suggest you read the thread properly MileHigh has done this on a number of occasions as well as others,
since it is Wayne who is making the claim, most members believe it is his responsibility to prove his case,
from the evidence he has provided so far no one has been able to produce a clear overunity device or a
self-running one.
And the amount of excuses he gives for delaying verification makes him someone not to be trusted on his word
Powercat,
Only looking on the surface, I would agree with your message. Sure he could have given more !
If you all would have read the forum properly you would have been discussing, improving, debunking, expanding the Travis theory. Because like spaghetti, the taste is in the sauce.  Could Wayne be more detailed, explanatory, to the point, provided more information... YES, he could have .....but ask the question, was he given a chance ?  Why did he depart ?  and you still think he owns the forum something.. an obligation... 
Do not be surprised why you do not get an update on new developments, or test activity, because in his eyes you became general public.  Accept it with grace because you might have been given too much already.

Copied from older posts, some samples of Wayne's posting declaring his intentions and relationship to the forum << Pertinent text is in bold>>

« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 11:07:46 PM »
My motivation to share this with all of you - is purely to validate what each of you have dreamed is possible, and just maybe - you will direct me to the like minded  people who will join the company.
I am nobody, But I am sincerely concerned for the worlds need of energy, and the impact supporting unsustainable and unsafe energy production.
Lastly - I am not concerned about what other people think about my efforts, no disrespect - but if I were to listen to all the nay Sayers -I would have never tried.

« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 11:07:46 PM »
I am not surprised by the way I am treated - even here - everyone thinks money will just fall from tree's when the O/U discovery is made. To use the need of money to deny a claim is inexperienced reasoning.
Have any of you offered to help, not yet, most everyone is looking for the fault.
Skepticism is a sign of intellect, but facts are little more reliable -and more important.

Reply #24 on: April 11, 2011, 04:57:58 PM »
OK, the real over unity device is going off line.
If and when I am sure it is safe, I will release all IP here, you all deserve to know.


« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2012, 04:14:10 PM »
We are further along in our research than anyone on this forum understands yet.
OPEN SOURCE comments:  I do have a reason for posting here - and not disclosing:

« Reply #454 on: June 13, 2012, 05:25:54 AM »
Nay sayers are welcome if the remain respectful - If you want to know for sure - get in your car, on a plane and knock on my door - I love sharing our work.
Don't expect that from your insults I am going to feel obligated to you.
We have released our progress and I have spent considerable time sharing our hard earned research with those respectful enough study and ask.
Lastly regarding The Law - we have yet to claim and will not claim "over Ideal" or more than the energy available in the simple physics of our design -
We have very clearly claimed to be able to operate at a lower than we can generate. I have even explained how.
The entire thread on defying the laws is your interpretation of what we have - not ours.

« Reply #699 on: June 24, 2012, 03:32:27 PM »
My Patent attorney told me that few people could - or would wrap their heads around a system (like ours) that had so many naturally correlating effects within the system - you are doing well!
On that note: does it amaze you yet on how much is going on in basically a single moving part (when they are attached together).

TinselKoala

Those dates are pretty telling, there, Red. The posts you quote span over a year and a half up to today!!

But checking his website you can clearly see that he is indeed claiming overunity, free energy, and all of that. But there isn't any report yet of what happened this weekend. If you find one, or know about any backchannel communications about the events of the weekend, please let me know right away.

@GreenHiker:
I think I know the incident you are talking about. Can you please provide a link to where I, under any alias at all, ever claimed any overunity performance?  I'll buy you a pizza and a glass of beer if you can. The device, IIRC, was originally exhibited specifically to refute a claim made by Omnibus, not having to do with OU at all but with the AGW rotation and drag reduction concerned, it was posted and brought to his attention, and then the original was taken down less than half an hour after it was posted. You will find that all of the copies you see are taken from someone's quick-thinking screen capture during that time period, and that the claims of overunity performance happened after that fact and none of them came from me. I think I can still find some links where it was clearly explained that the device in question was NOT, and never could be, overunity or exhibit anything out of the ordinary. If I showed you a set of wings flapping, but told you specifically that you could not fly with them, and then you broke your ankle trying to fly off the roof of the barn..... would it be my fault? What I mean is this: those thousands of people you mention clearly did NOT believe what they were being told, straight out, full truth.... measurements that indicated 17000 joules of onboard energy storage, for example, based on rotor power dissipation measurements, or the overnight running with RPMs reported every few minutes, which when graphed clearly indicate a slow decrease in RPM.... these people chose NOT to believe what they were being told, and instead chose all on their own to try to make an overunity device based on what they had seen. Is it surprising that they failed to make an OU device? While yet succeeding in replicating the red herrings of AGW stator rotation, the stabilising effect of the magnokinetic judson dampers that even depended on a specific aluminum alloy, the reduction in drag and rotor acceleration caused by the AGW stators? Lots of people replicated all those features without difficulty. (Moving stators.... lol.) CLaNZeR's nice graphs comparing judson damper materials, showing a clear difference with the specified alloy working the best,  were some of the nicest data I've seen, and I know he never expected any OU performance. If those people had believed what they were being clearly and definitely told, and simply tried to reproduce what they saw, they would have had much better luck, I think. But they chose to believe their fantasies instead. Blame me for that? Sure, and the poor student who flunks an announced exam will also blame her teacher for her own inadequacies.
Are you aware that the designer of that device, Overconfident, or 0C sometimes, died from a malignant metastasis of his melanoma cancer? All through his brain it was. I considered him a friend, a very level headed fellow, with a pretty good grasp of reality until close to the end. His device, too, would have worked as a true OU motor if only he had some of those negative coefficient of friction bearings. I hope you aren't confusing him and his claims and hopes, with me and mine.
I feel sorry for those people who feel that they wasted their time on that project, but I don't feel responsible for their folly at all, any more than I would if you broke your ankle jumping off the barn with my model wings that I told you wouldn't support your weight. OK... so it's my fault that I left them out for you to see and dream about.
I really wish I could discuss that project further, because it has some really profound implications, some of which are being repeated right before our very eyeballs, but I can't.

powercat

Quote from: Red_Sunset on November 06, 2012, 12:18:04 AM
Powercat,
Only looking on the surface, I would agree with your message. Sure he could have given more !
If you all would have read the forum properly you would have been discussing, improving, debunking, expanding the Travis theory. Because like spaghetti, the taste is in the sauce.  Could Wayne be more detailed, explanatory, to the point, provided more information... YES, he could have .....but ask the question, was he given a chance ?  Why did he depart ?  and you still think he owns the forum something.. an obligation... 
Do not be surprised why you do not get an update on new developments, or test activity, because in his eyes you became general public.  Accept it with grace because you might have been given too much already.

Copied from older posts, some samples of Wayne's posting declaring his intentions and relationship to the forum << Pertinent text is in bold>>

You talk about chances mrwayne has had so many chances he has been claiming overunity for over a year,
and blaming this forum is ridiculous he's only been here since April and he has his own website,
none of the members here can post on his website, so he has more than enough chances to prove his case.

Wayne's promising words and statements,
he is doing exactly the same sort of stuff he did on this forum on his website, keep promising the verification team
is about to turn up, keep saying the devices running better and improvements have been made, keep saying important
information about how the machine runs will be released shortly.
These are all great words for people who want to believe by faith alone...With the faith you don't have to know
the facts....You don't have to build a device or test it....You know it works because you believe.

I can not run my house on blind faith and neither can anyone else, and so far Wayne's evidence has been
Seriously lacking in Scientific Data...verification, and successful replications showing clear overunity
Yes I know he says this has all been done but that is just his words, his words are not proof,
unless of course you are a believer and follow blindly.

Very interesting you posted a list of quotes from mrwayne that actually say very little,
I think I will do the same and make a list that show Wayne's words are not to be trusted.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall


wildew