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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mrwayne

Our poppet valves have nothing to do with the Zed functions - it is a system I designed to turn a inefficient hydraulic system into Near zero loss system (hydraulics only)
They were very hard to locate (exactly what I needed) when I bought them -
Apparently I accepted a pressure rating less than the rest of the system - (3000 psi).
So We pulled those out Yesterday - until we, or somebody out here can help us find better ones.
We could not run with them leaking bye.
Now, We resume testing - when we finish mark will be here.
From Mark Dansie
June 26
"great news
Mark (from Mark)
Wish I was there this is exciting times
I will be soon as your ready only need a days notice."
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neptune

Whilst we are waiting for Wayne`s tests and Mark`s tests, Here are some random thoughts about transmission. The transmission is a vital part of any machine but especially this one. In a recent post Wayne has said that his hydraulic system is a low loss system .I know little about hydraulics, but I would expect that the overall efficiency of that hydraulic system is probably about 80% .
      The problem we face is that we like our energy in the form of electricity because it is so versatile. But efficient generators need to spin fast, and the ZED machine is slow moving. Any transmission that involves a wide gear ratio is going to have losses. Interestingly, Wayne talks about the use of a crankshaft in proposed larger machines. I am just wondering if a similar approach in a smaller machine would be more cost effective than hydraulics. No doubt Wayne has considered this.
       In manufacturing any machine it is vital to keep costs low. Here is my rough guess as to how such costs would pan out .
                             ZEDs- 25% of total costs


                              Generator and electronics-25%


                              Hydraulics- 45%


                               Miscellaneous-5%
  So that is just a guess, but it is obvious that the first place to look at saving money could be the transmission.




                               


mondrasek

@neptune,  well said.

I have to go cut up some trees that fell in my Mother-in-law's yard during some unexpected storms yesterday evening and night.  So I can't look this up, but what is the transmission efficiency of a Muller type generator?  (kind of ironic, eh?)

Just curious myself and hope someone else has the time to do the research.

M.

LarryC

Stopped at Lowe's today and talked to the Acrylic cutter. The machine appeared to be very capable of  good accuracy, but it depends on the cutter. I asked how accurate and was told it could be up to 1/8 off. Asked if I could use MM, was told only inches, then showed him on the machine that it had MM on the rulers, he said I guess we could. The other issue is that it is a scoring machine where they will score then snap off the piece, so the cut edges would need to be block sanded with 2000 grit wet sandpaper.

Called ACE and they didn't exactly understand my question, just said they could cut to any 1/16.

Checked online and this place http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic/Lexan_Clear_Polycarbonate_Sheet will cut your MTO for a reasonable charge and with accuracy to .030".

Edit: Noticed they had 3/16 size online, this may be the best fit for the model, using 3/16 material and 3/16 gap. Compared to Wayne's drawing with 1.76 on each side, this would be 1.86 on each side. It is wide enough to glue and more stiffness than 1/8. 

So the best would probably be Online.

But check with me first before using the MTO to order, as I may have some adjustments in mind.

Regards, Larry

mrwayne

Just a quick note - our re-usage of a portion of the production is relatively efficient
But transferring the excess to production is a very standard poor.
Thank Goodness, we have abundant excess.
We do not have the same problem facing LENR, we produce electricity in excess - even with the transmission cost.

Wayne