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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mondrasek

Quote from: MileHigh on July 21, 2012, 04:45:24 PM
You go shopping for a car and you ask the car salesman what the power output of the car is... Does the salesman tell you to go learn about combustion engines and transmissions and differentials and different fuel mixtures?  Get real.

MH, you are not "shopping for a car."  You are in a forum thread discussing a new "engine" technology.

Yes, you are supposed to try and understand that technology.

M.

MileHigh

Mondrasek:

QuoteMH, you are not "shopping for a car."  You are in a forum thread discussing a new "engine" technology.

Yes, you are supposed to try and understand that technology.

I told you I was asking my simple basic questions without any preconditions.  There is no rational reason to have any preconditions.  I am not "supposed" to do anything.

I will take that as an admission that you can't answer my three simple questions about the output because you simply don't know the answers yourself.  Why can't you just admit it?  You should try to build up some character.

It's up to you or any other contributors to this thread to work up the courage to ask Wayne yourselves.  Without doing that you are just sheep being led around by Wayne.

So the three simple questions remain unanswered and for all of your discussions with spreadsheets, none of you can answer them.

MileHigh

mondrasek


TinselKoala

Quote from: mrwayne on July 21, 2012, 01:34:14 PM
Good work Larry,
You have shown how the "concentration" of the "Travis Effect" works.
I might suggest that we move on to the next portion of the system.
The next phase is to understand how much Head is transferred to the second Z.E.D
Things to consider - The weight of the risers and added weight - they allow the system to sink when partially charged (head)
When You calculate how much (minimum) head it requires to float - amount of weight - you have the minimum exhaust pressure.
Next - you need to Know what your stroking pressure is - so your weight plus your production load - maximum head needed.
Take the average of the two pressures - and this gives you the post free flow pressure.
The value of the free flow is the head at max (end of stroke) to the post free flow pressure.
The value of the remaining exhaust is the post free flow pressure to the Minimum head pressure (sinking pressure)
The head less than the sinking pressure always remains in the Z.E.D and never needs replaced.
This is a good start.
Our pressure is:
Minimum 5.0,  8.4 max, and 6.7 post free flow.
Since the true input cost to each side it the diffirence between these pressures and the Max - this is very important.

Wayne
At the risk of arousing the further wrath of mondrasek and the other workers, I have to say that what is described here sure sounds to me like something material, not "just" energy,  is being "produced" from nothing ... You can't have air pressure that increases or that is exhausted to some other place, without increasing the amount of air... the number of molecules, the mass of the air.
You are removing mechanical energy from the system to keep it moving against friction etc. But you are also exhausting something from one Zed to the other. How is what is exhausted, replenished, so that the mechanical losses are made up, with extra left over?  I know, I know.... from the exhaust of the other Zed.

mondrasek

How embarrassing!  Sorry if I have been emoting.  I truly didn't mean to be wrathful.  I'll take a break.

Sorry again,

M.