Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[TinselKoala]

@Mondrasek: I am afraid that I'm not going to be able to build any intricate models this time, sorry.
But I suggest that you examine, build, and meditate upon the Cartesian Diver, illustrated in a modern form in the video I linked. Water pressure, air volume, buoyancy... it is all there.

In addition, I thought there was already a working, self-powering prototype of this device? Isn't that what the claim is, for the big, groaning, hydraulic/pneumatic device? I'm not sure I understand just what is happening in this thread. If there is a working prototype, let it be carefully examined. A patent is nearly useless for something as complex as this; what's needed is engineering drawings, schematic diagrams of the electronics, the hydraulic and pneumatic circuits detailed, and so on, and this information isn't easily gleaned from the patent. If it is self-powered and can run itself while providing useful work to a load... or even just keep moving, under its own power, not stored power... then this should be clear on careful examination, and any and all efforts are worthwhile to try to understand and promote the discovery. However...

If the illustrated prototype does NOT self-sustain.... then no amount of effort on our parts is going to make it so, because.... well.... buoyancy is nothing but gravity misspelled.

[mrwayne]

You are all welcome to follow Tinsels suggestion,

No offense really, if you persue I will guide - I have had to overcome many obsitcals to get our system built and running both. Some people offer good educated thought, other seek more.

He is right - we do not need to replicate - it would just be a a teaching tool - and a mark in history.

I love the Gravity mispelled - very clever.

Wayne

[TinselKoala]

Wayne, if your present system works, the one in the video, without supplied external power.... then you don't need to "guide" anyone.
Provide what I suggested: engineering drawings, the electrical schematic, the hydraulic circuit, the pneumatic valvology, from the existing, working prototype, not the patent. Or, if you like, invite some interested impartial third party (like me) to examine and test your working prototype. I can tell you this: if it is self powered, truly, and uses gravity and buoyancy to sustain operation.... I can set you up solid, my man, solid. I'll get rich from being the middleman, but you will get hugely so rich you cannot imagine it, and the world will be a better place very quickly.

[mondrasek]

@Mondrasek: I am afraid that I'm not going to be able to build any intricate models this time, sorry.

Are you kidding me old man?  A FULLY FUNDED (well, materials only) build?  In acrylic?

Just think how sweet that would look on the shelf next to your mondrasek wheel!

Seriously though, I appreciate you considering the idea.  It is a lot to ask, and you are a busy man.  I also understand that it is extremely hard to justify if you have to dismiss the principle of it's operation.

I know you will, but I ask anyway:  Please continue to monitor this thread and give your sage advise and input when appropriate (as you have been doing).

Also, once you have thoroughly digested the FULLY FUNDED (add disclaimer here) offer, please reconsider.

M.

[norman6538]

Tom's new demos are very exciting and promising but the challenge is simple now.
Get 1 or 2 foot pounds to put the air in the cup to lift about 10 foot pounds and then
with some of that work pick up the original 1-2 foot pound weight and

1. remove the air and then
2. repeat the air filling process.

That will be the undeniable proof of the long sought after perpetual motion machine.

I'm very optimistic....
Norman