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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mrwayne

Yes, Of course respect to the families of Colorado and their loved ones - they are our brothers and sisters.... enough said.

Thank You for the Birthday wishes - 45 half way there.

Replications are expensive - who among would replicate a $30,000 to $500,000 system in your garage?

Dennis is building the replications - and has completed his Physics model - his plan is to explain and educate in simple terms.

I am sorry for those I am not able to communicate clearly too - what seems simple to some - can appear complex to others - and in my experience with engineers - complexity is often added where it is not needed - this can becomes a personal stumbling block to others.

I understand that we each have our own unique perspective - I have also observed where sometimes education works the uniqueness out of us.

I was a bit of a rebel (secretly in school) I held onto my uniqueness - others tried to fit in - while I refused to join the crowd -
I did not hold it against them - I did step in when the crowd attacked someone for "being Smaller" -
Thank you to those who try to stop the character attack - but please refrain - my character is solid - and not based on what others say.

I value Freedom:
True freedom is partly the right to choose to fit in or not - nobody has the right to step on others for personal gain or ego.

Text books:

The idea that all discovery and understanding was to be found in text books was counter intuitive to the process that put the knowledge in the books in the first place - the inventors - the researchers - the observant - and the creative - did not get their understanding from text books - but from thinking people.

Error is and was introduced to the field of science - when science became its own Law maker - rather than the observable, repeatable fact..... Newton warned of that - we should all understand that to use science as a "limiter" of observation is counterintuitive.

I had a good science teacher - when I was very young - in one instance -  I argued that water did not always seek a level position - I referenced the round ocean - the wick effect - and evaporation - that in perspective - it could be seen differently.

I was very young - But my teacher respected my curiosity - he was the kind of teacher who stood on glass plates and ran electricity through his arms to lite  a lite bulb with his finger tips -  super cool....he died of an enlarged heart - happy to have inspired the minds of others.

He explained -
"The questions you are asked in this school are merely to teach and to share what others have learned and observed - the instruction will be based on those things previously discovered, you will be graded on your understanding of what they observed.......but you must keep asking questions, new discoveries are made that way."

This same teacher then suggested I try to make use of the wick effect - that was the start of my move from observation to experimenting.

Fully functioning Z.E.D. models:
I did - I built 8 of them - reused parts from older models of course to save money - but that is what it took to discover the secrets of buoyancy - it took quite some doing to design the mechanics to take advantage of the "Travis Effect"

Our Market:

We are not in the FE machine to "run a refrigerator" market- like the "Imagine FE commercial" on Peswiki.

One of our Machines will power between 60 and 70 homes - average annual consumption - not peak of course - but averaged power consumption.

The Z.E.D system is very robust - we have not had the issue of unrepeatability - we have modified - changed configurations - disassembled - reassembled and the Z.E.D. portion of the machine - and they Z.E.D. portion functions repeatedly just as the Physics show it does - very much FE.

The hardest learning curve was the use of the Non linear - since the system uses two Z.E.D.s the linear functions had to be matched - which meant they had to be understood - that took hard and long work.

Now - the Energy capture system - which can be of any complexity - has given me trouble in my Garage - I am not an engineer - but people want to see electricity - so our lateral stroke had to be turned efficiently into electricity - that is hard with a small model. Hence the hydraulic conversion system.

Thermal:

We do not exchange heat - or do any form of exchange in that manner - When it is hot outside - or cold - the system does respond as expected - the accumulators nitrogen does expand a bit - but since the system is self regulating - it compensates automatically.
The speed and pressure we deal with are barely enough to measure that exchange - Our engineer said - it is less than one 90 degree elbow (in the plumbing) adds in resistance and loss to the system.

Partial Theory:
It takes understanding the full operation to grasp our system - which is why I direct those who make predictive emotional comments to do the due dillignese. in my experiance - those people never do - "learning" becomes a distant memory in some minds.

The Operation of our system is Mechanical FE - we Mechanically manipulate the pressure differences between three separate mediums - because they are each effected by gravity in a measurable and predictable manner - differently - we can control the effect.

Our exchange system is a huge cost reduction and is simple equalization - captured and controlled.
The Unique portion - the pressure diffirential section - is a key.
Our water in our layers is like a liquid but act as both a solid lever and a pressure increaser - taking advantage of both the incopressability and the effect gravity has on the density of the fluid.
Our Lever has enabled us to design a system which is bent up and down many times (shortening the length of the lever - reducing the stroke length of the long end of the handle) - while still applying the force and output on the short end - like any understood lever. (how we take the work out is why this portion works --and a bent steel lever does not).
Larry has shown this effect in many of his spread sheets.

The force applied to the levers "folded long end" is gravity induced pressure from mechanically controlled pressure differentials.

Level of disclosure:

This group, had only been shown the inception and the basic process - and when you are ready - I will show how we turned our 160% (three layers) efficient model into 340% (six layers), then 840% (eight layers) and then reduces the "input cost"
We have one unreleaesed portion of the deisgn that takes any of those internal input costs and reduceds them another 88%.

Yes - we have discovered how to take our Original FE system and using the theory of operation to expand the process well beyound what - at this point in time - is even believable - for now.

Today some people treat us like crack pots - tomorrow - (figuratively) as we move forward - those people will realize thier error.
 
We are ready for the World, and most of the world is ready for us, let me repeat - We are ready for the World.

Don't wait too long - and thank you for the value you offer by at least being part of the knowledge of this adventure.

Suppression:
No one has tried to interfear with the development, research, or production of this system - unless you call apathy and slander interference - as I have seen on this web site.

In my humble opinion - regarding the interference - the brilliant one ones have stopped - the smart have doubled down.
I understand that "Smart" comes in many forms - on this site it has been emotional disagreements - not based on understanding not based on the physics of our system or observation or witness of others.

Emotions are not good scientific proof for or against a fact.

All I offer here is the truth and share in our discovery, I am not here to boost any egos, play games, or to be rude to others.

Thank you sincerely to those who have asked questions and spent the effort to understand.

True Freedom, Independance, the systems will cost to be deployed - but the continued benifit will be seen in a few years - for genrations - which is a rare occurance in this world - that is why I named my company HydroEnergy Revolution llc - ( H.E.R)

Wayne Travis




neptune

Quote of the week.


"all reasonable men change themselves to fit in with their environment. Unreasonable men change the environment to suit themselves. Therefore, all progress is made by unreasonable men."


This was the original quote. I would substitute "unconventional" for "unreasonable".

GreenHiker

Nice quote Neptune.
One of my favorites that I believe also applies:

Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent.
  â€"- Calvin Coolidge

PS - My change would be "Persistence and faith alone are omnipotent"

TinselKoala

Quote from: neptune on July 23, 2012, 08:02:01 AM
@TK. I understand that some guy out in Oaklahoma, name of Wayne Travis has built one. :)
Uh huh... and I understand he's trying to get somebody else to build another one, a tabletop demonstrator. Has anyone succeeded in this, yet?  ;)

I was asking, in my post, if the thirteen model replications were spreadsheet models or actual model models that you ... meaning mostly me ... could build and set to running and watch running.... and running.......... and running........... right there in my own kitchen. I think I've gotten my answer.


neptune

Hi TK. That was just me  trying to be humerous. I do know there are people working on a table top model, but as far as I know no one has yet completed the work. Wayne has said that the thirteen models are mathematical models, not table top models. Although a ZED is basically a simple device, making one in your garage is not a five minute job. I have no doubt someone will do it.