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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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phwest

Quote from: mrwayne on July 26, 2012, 09:46:45 PM

...Also - Our engineers modeling results did not not show much gain from 3-4 layers on up - until they understood the effect the layers and on considering both speed and volume of the reused "head"  The value changes with layers and pressure...


There must be a tradeoff, the more layers the more water to move inside those thin columns. Total flow ability is reduced plus more water mass to move back and forth. True, more force out (lifting) capability measured at equilibrium states. However; cycle time may have to increase, lowering the overall power out. (in that part of the equation) There should be an optimum mathematical solution for each configuration. (It could be more than one local maxima depending how complex the math gets)
Good stuff.

phwest

Quote from: webby1 on July 26, 2012, 10:48:16 PM
Not so sure on that.

If a model could be built, it would of been built.

Rube G. buddy is your friend,,, follow his teachings and BUILD something and stop TALKING,, it makes a huge difference to understanding.
Wow webby1, thank you for the warm welcome mate. But it seems the sneak peek you took into by lab, must have been when the lights were off… I guess no-one should talk, exchange ideas or comment unless she/he has a build to show? ;)
Anyway... nice creative build you have going  there, thank you for posting the pics/info.

mrwayne

@All
I very much appreciate the intelligent approach and respectable behaviour being shown by most.

Those that took the time to Replicate the Physics, or the simple math - well done.

Those that experimented in the sink, tub, pool, fishtank - well done.

Those that built replications - Very well done.

Those who came and visited - took pictures -  in history -well done.

Those of you who privately discussed the technology in your peer groups - well done.


It has been a joy to share our discovery with you - I hope you have enjoyed and will continue.

Let me tell you the exciting news - first - we are up and running.

Those of you who might want to be part of this - at any level;

Be it getting your picture with the Current machine  (show to your grand kids one day) or To joining our Team - Welcome.

It is an honor to have you involved, and as a friend.

Second; We have taken this breakthrough model and have improved it to the point that this model is the "tricycle"
Compared to the Beta Test Models - our improvements are with less parts, fewer conversions and smaller foot prints.

In short - much less complicated and massively more Net Power to serve to the consumer.

As I told Stefan in the beginning - I am not here to claim any prize - but to include those people passionate about the future of clean energy production - we are certainly going to need friends and team members around the world.

Our system is solid as a rock, our IP can not be stronger than it is. The demand for our product ...... it can not be expressed (the demand) - and its Scaleable.

We could be the only viable clean energy system that has a Return on the Investment - in a few years - less in some areas.
Mark Dansie and his personal associates have aligned us with a group of partners for after the validation, and have prepared an awesome validation team. Well Done.

The Adventurers have been aligning with us - in preparation - very quickly, it will not be long before the waves begin.
After this Validation testing and presentation - we will be setting down to a coalition of teams world wide to bring this technology to the world - this could include you - Let Mark or I know - we will include you in the team - if you can join our vision, manage or support the same goals, have a quality character, and ability to followthrough - you will be welcomed.

This Machine is big - big enough for the world. Big enough to include you.
Yes, I do presume we will be validated - and so do those who have replicated the system - again well done.

Z.E.D or Zydro Energy Device

Wayne Travis
HydroEnergyRevolution.com
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com





phwest

Quote from: webby1 on July 27, 2012, 09:48:23 AM
My bad, I was thinking of a post about simulating and I hit quote instead of reply.
No problem.

phwest

Quote from: Seamus101 on July 27, 2012, 01:42:37 AM
Yes, I would agree with that.

Great.
Next we take this frictionless piston/cylinder, and we fully submerge it in water.

We position the cylinder vertically with the piston/rod assembly extending downwards and the cylinder on top. We keep some air in the cylinder (air pocket), and we make the whole thing buoyancy neutral. We can do it as a whole unit or we can make the piston rod with an effective density equal to water, so it is buoyancy neutral and we have enough air  inside the cylinder so it exactly counterbalances its own weight. (cylinder also buoyancy neutral)

Furthermore we make the rod same diameter as the piston, and now it looks like a medical syringe (like the old all glass ones â€" keep it still frictionless)
So the whole assembly as it stands now is buoyancy neutral, and has some air in it. And lets say is at level1 inside the water.

Do we agree on the following?
a.   If we compress the assembly at that level1 and let go, there is zero net energy for the cycle same as per previous post.
b.   If we move the assembly from level1 to level2 and back to level1 there is no energy gain or loss. The assembly is weightless inside the water. And actually even moving from level1 to level2 requires no net energy (weightless-buoyancy neutral)
c.   Now, lets do both. Compress at level 1 move (translate) to level 2 decompress at level2 and move back to level 1. Net energy is zero, the translation contributes/subtracts nothing, the compression/decompression cycle is also net zero.

Agreed?
Let me know yes or no, so we’ll continue next with the simplified  pod/riser model as you asked.