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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mrwayne

Quote from: microcontroller on August 09, 2012, 01:49:58 PM
This is a discussion board.
Nobody needs to keep their comments.
If you are not happy with what people post feel free to leave but do not tell them what to do, you are not in that position.

This is an open source board anybody can join the discussion.

So don't tell people to keep their comments Wayne.

Bye Bye

Dear MicroController,

I am very respectful of others ability to share - be included, and to listen.

I am sure you did not mean to leave out the "Condescending" portion of my comment.

If you have something of value to share - welcome.

This site is not for the purpose of interuption, disruption, insults, misinformation, and otherwise inappropriate behavior.

If that is all you have offer the discussion - then keep it to yourself.

We are doing good work here, showing what this web forum is meant for - showing and discussing free energy, over unity, and a new technology - that many of us here are enjoying the discussion.

Wayne

neptune

@microcontroller. The evidence of OU is there for those who are prepared to put in the time and effort to learn about this technology. Why are you so anxious that Wayne should leave? If he does, then that prevent those of us who wish to learn from doing so. If you believe that there is no OU here, then why not move on and leave us to it?

LarryC

Simple as it can get proof. Apples to Apples.

The attached shows a Archimedes Pod of 30" diameter with retainer and a Travis Pod of 30" diameter with retainer. The Archimedes Pod is the height that it would take for it to have the same lift forces as a 4 Riser Travis System. The Riser are not shown as the water is only input into the Pod retainer.

Note that the Sink to Stroke water difference for Archimedes is 164, while only 37 for 4 Riser. Also note that the PSI levels are higher for Arch. than 4 Riser, this advantage is due to larger SI areas on the Risers.

Archimedes has to input 164" of water pushing against PSI from 5.43 to 11.33.
4 Riser has to input 37" of water pushing against PSI from 5.07 to 9.99 PSI.
Or Archimedes has to input 4.43 times as much water at the SI as 4 Riser for the same lift with a much increase load and unload time going from Sink to Stroke and Stroke to Sink.

I have more for later. Just want to give some time to digest, before I confuse with my new spreadsheet on this drawing.

Regards, Larry

mrwayne

Quote from: microcontroller on August 09, 2012, 04:23:10 PM

No Sir,

There is no evidence.

I post about twice every 20 pages do you think that's too much?
Maybe i should make it 40 pages then.

Yeah Neptune, i will see you in another 40 pages of empty words, claims, spreadsheets, images, and road trip reports!
I hope to see you there !

MC
Micro controller you are an...... something else.....
My only road trip was to our Aunts funeral, she was 59.
Very rude indeed.
Wayne

MileHigh

Larry:

QuoteSimple as it can get proof. Apples to Apples.

The attached shows a Archimedes Pod of 30" diameter with retainer and a Travis Pod of 30" diameter with retainer. The Archimedes Pod is the height that it would take for it to have the same lift forces as a 4 Riser Travis System. The Riser are not shown as the water is only input into the Pod retainer.

Note that the Sink to Stroke water difference for Archimedes is 164, while only 37 for 4 Riser. Also note that the PSI levels are higher for Arch. than 4 Riser, this advantage is due to larger SI areas on the Risers.

Archimedes has to input 164" of water pushing against PSI from 5.43 to 11.33.
4 Riser has to input 37" of water pushing against PSI from 5.07 to 9.99 PSI.
Or Archimedes has to input 4.43 times as much water at the SI as 4 Riser for the same lift with a much increase load and unload time going from Sink to Stroke and Stroke to Sink.

I have more for later. Just want to give some time to digest, before I confuse with my new spreadsheet on this drawing.

This is a comment for you and all others that have shown data or spreadsheets.

Can you please convert your analysis to the proper units for evaluation?

It takes a certain number of Joules, foot-pounds_force, Newton-meters, kilogram_force-meters, etc, to push the pod down.  The pod will produce useful work when it moves up and your calculations must result in a work calculation.

How much work can you extract from the pod and what is the vertical displacement?

How much work does it take to push the pod back down and what is the vertical displacement?

Without showing work calculations I just don't see the point.  It's all about how much work you can extract from a rising pod and comparing how much work it takes to push the pod back in place for the next cycle.

Without looking at the work and just looking a "pounds of lifting force" or whatever, you are completely missing the point.  I have looked at half a dozen spreadsheets by multiple contributors to this thread and I just don't get it.

You must not take your eye off the ball, it's all about work-in and work-out, everything else is secondary.

MileHigh