Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[Magluvin]

This is a discussion board.
Nobody needs to keep their comments.
If you are not happy with what people post feel free to leave but do not tell them what to do, you are not in that position.

This is an open source board anybody can join the discussion.

So don't tell people to keep their comments Wayne.

Bye Bye

But thats just it. You are not discussing anything. You are just dropping paper bags of dog crap. And it stinks. 

Guys, at the top of each post, there is a 'Report to moderator' link. If a few of us post a complaint, Micro can be dropped like a bad habbit. ;]

My trigger finger is itchy. ;]

MaGs

[MileHigh]

Webby1:

It's not force that is the issue, it's work: force x displacement.  You talk about the pod providing a lifting force and you talk about a displacement, so you should already have the tools in place to make a work computation.  Same thing for the "negative work" computation, where the pod has to go back down.

I will just repeat what I said:  Please show all of your work-in and work-out calculations.  That is what it's all about.

MileHigh

[fletcher]

I agree Milehigh et al, that these are the relevant facts needed to be ascertained to establish the potential for OU or free energy.

Ordinary buoyancy produces a constant force over vertical distance due to linear pressure gradients in a virtually non compressible liquid - this means you can find the Joules [Nm] & find the Power in Watts [Nm/sec] - this can be compared to the Joules expended to either depress a buoyancy piston or conversely pump liquid into the chamber to create the head.

Note: The "Work Energy Equivalence Principle" says that Work [f x d] in Joules is directly comparable to the Energy in Joules to depress the piston or pump the fluid - ordinary system mechanical losses bring an inequality to this relationship, especially if electric pumps are used etc due to heat losses & overall inefficiency.

The pod configuration has a variable force effect IINM so is more problematic to determine how much Work [in Joules] it can do - IMO a method to determine this would be to use the pod to raise a known mass to its maximum height achievable - then compare the Joules of PE it is given to the Work Done to set the system, or some such variation.

IOW's, the ZED pod should produce more PE Joules in a raised mass [= Work Done] than Joules of Energy to set the system, to be potentially either OU or free energy before system losses are accounted for in the energy budget.

Just my opinions to keep this discussion grounded, practical & non personality driven, in the interests of establishing credible rigorous fact from fiction, whilst we wait for MD's analysis to confirm the actual long run test results & setup detail in support of Mr Wayne's claims.

I have no particular axe to grind if Mr Wayne's device is OU or not [ I hope it is], however I have learned to examine & trust actual empirical data that can be replicated, above exuberance & spreadsheets - first establish that the Work Output is empirically greater than the Work Input.

[Magluvin]

Webby1:

It's not force that is the issue, it's work: force x displacement.  You talk about the pod providing a lifting force and you talk about a displacement, so you should already have the tools in place to make a work computation.  Same thing for the "negative work" computation, where the pod has to go back down.

I will just repeat what I said:  Please show all of your work-in and work-out calculations.  That is what it's all about.

MileHigh

Give it a lil time M. Webby has just put the very simple 'test' tubes to some various tests the other day, just to see if there is something to see.  And actually, it was done well enough for MrWayne to delve out 2Gs, cashitos, to Webby for listening closely and accomplishing what he has done so far. A a paid trip to Mr Waynes facility to meet.

Im sure that Webby will do and show more as the work progresses. So far, he is the only one that did the deed, and it isnt done yet. ;]

Lets see what happens. Im involved elsewhere, but following closely.

He might not have the data you require at the moment. And also might have his own time schedule in doing more.    At least he has come this far, so far. ;]

MaGs

[LarryC]

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