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Overunity Machines Forum



Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mondrasek

Quote from: TinselKoala on August 17, 2012, 02:20:30 PM
mondrasek said,
Thank you. This is a process that requires work, does it not?

Well I believe that depends on the actual relative heights (and the assumed gravity field) of both the hydraulic cylinders and the hydraulic reservoir. 

Seriously, professor, thanks for challenging us.  I believe we are making great progress because of it.

I'd love to engage more right now but am in charge of the little one.  But it looks like the rest of the class is in attendance.

Somebody wake up Hicks (er, um, I mean, Webby)!

M.

powercat

Quote from: mrwayne on August 17, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
I am sorry for the delay - very busy testing.
Several Points --
For TK

A lot of members here have great respect for TK logic and due diligence when it comes to claims of over unity
So it is not just TK that your answering but the people like myself whos understanding of science is limited.
I say this now because I feel there is a slight resentment in your response, I do hope this is not the case
and you will continue to answer TK questions as best you can.

After all we're all looking for the same thing "Free energy that is self-running"

When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

TinselKoala

Quote from: neptune on August 17, 2012, 03:14:08 PM
@Tk.
1.Having looked at the photographs on Mr Wayne` site, It would appear that the object to which you refer is indeed the hydraulic reservoir. That would mean that a small amount of work is consumed in drawing oil back into the production rams.
2. I am here to help you understand what is being claimed. If you want help with hole digging, I am not your man. I am here to help you make an unbiased assessment of the technology.
3.Rather than get involved in semantics, I prefer to rely on what Wayne has already said, and if you want to call it a generator that is OK. Perhaps Wayne will enlighten us as to the exact type of machine, and its specification.



Quote from: mrwayne on August 17, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
I am sorry for the delay - very busy testing.
Several Points --
For TK

The drawing Larry has shown is the dimensions of my unit - do with it what you like.

Second - It is called a wind generator - from Windynations - 500watt A/C three phase. We rectify it to DC - the voltage locks into the CPU batteries. I have no idea if you can run it backwards - I assume so.

Normally a hydraulic motor can function as both pump or motor - until you drop below certain sizes - at least with this supplier - this particular motor can not be a pump.

The Reservoir for the return fluid is at the highest point in the system to avoid air trapping and suction.

(snip)

Well.... can you blame me for being confused? The reservoir is on the bottom, the reservoir is on the top. I only see a reservoir on the bottom, but I'll take your word for it that there are components that aren't being shown.

"The drawing Larry has shown is the dimensions of my unit - do with it what you like."
I am asking for the dimensions and pressures of the simple threelayer system that is clearly overunity by itself. Is that what Larry's drawing represents? How is the clearly overunity performance determined for this threelayer system that is clearly overunity by itself?

This must be an unreasonable question, because nobody is answering it.  But as I said before, I don't think it is unreasonable at all, especially if one is attempting to explain a much more complex and apparently harder to measure system to a tree-dwelling leaf-eating bearlike animal.

Thank you for the name and rating of the generator you are using. I'll be looking up the actual specifications for the unit, like its preferred operating RPM and stuff like that there, just for my own reference purposes. It seems that there is sufficient flow of hot wind around here that I might be able to use a wind generator at home. If you would be so kind as to also specify the part number of the hydraulic motor, that would also be nice.

ETA: You've said, I think,  that the system makes 36 Watts of electrical power over and above that which is needed for the operation of the machine itself. How much is that? I  mean, how much of the generator's 500 Watts rated output at full RPM is actually being generated, and how much goes to running the machine?

TinselKoala

Is this the PMA.... Permanent Magnet ALTERNATOR... that is being used?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1lC9eN0u60

I believe that a Wind Generator refers to the entire apparatus. The unit being turned by the wind power and used to produce electricity from it is an ALTERNATOR, using the manufacturer's nomenclature.

Sloppy language makes Koalas misunderstand what is happening. We are very literal critters.

TinselKoala

@see3d: Touched a nerve, did I? Sorry. You are doing just fine, carry on. But I think that the simple three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself would be very interesting to analyze, don't you? I especially would like to know how the clear overunity is determined. Does it run itself indefinitely too?