Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[wildew]

This was asked of M. but for comparison sake - here are those numbers from my current 2U as pictured in the last post.

1.. What is the Kg of the Non removable weight on top of the riser
6.96 Kg

2.. What is the water height in the measuring tube at the start with nothing on top of the riser
(I mean nothing at all, and you have the normal amount of water inside you began with before )
4.5"

3.. How different is the water level in the zed compared to the measuring tube
What point in the ZED? POD 2"

4.. What is the water height in the tube when you put the non-removable weight on
16.125"

5.. What is the water height in the tube when you put the removable weight on
2.37Kg removable weight
20"

6.. What is the water height in the tube at the end of the lift
1" lift
23.5" head

Measure the water in the measuring tube vertically with reference to the inside bottom of the zed.
POD level is 4.5"
Difference then is 19"

Dale

[wildew]

@M - did I read this correctly?

I measured it roughly when at the sink location to be approximately 165 mm of input tube head change when the 1217 lift mass is removed or installed

Can that be converted to .159 Lbs lifted 6.5 inches for input and 2.7Lbs lifted .4 inches for output?
Or 1.03 in/lb input for 1.08 in/lb output?
Same methodology I'm trying to use for mine but do not know that it's the proper way to analyze this type of I/O
Dale

[mondrasek]

@Red_Sunset,

1.. What is the Kg of the Non removable weight on top of the riser

Pod = 38 gr.
R1 = 30 gr.
R2 = 34 gr.
Lift Mass = 1217 gr.
Non-removed mass = 399 gr. (electrical tape spool and plywood disk spacers, Cedar plank, and Tupperware type container w/wet sand)
Weight of Digital Indicator probe (return spring is removed) = 19 gr.

2.. What is the water height in the measuring tube at the start with nothing on top of the riser (I mean nothing at all, and you have the normal amount of water inside you began with before )

48mm

3.. How different is the water level in the zed compared to the measuring tube

It is actually below all the water levels in the ZED.  But those levels vary and are difficult to distinguish and measure.  I estimated one at 58 mm and the others all at 73 mm.

4.. What is the water height in the tube when you put the non-removable weight on

86 mm

5.. What is the water height in the tube when you put the 1.2kg removable weight on

238 mm

6.. What is the water height in the tube at the end of the 10mm lift

284 mm

[mondrasek]

mondrasek,

Your video link seems to be broken.
http://youtu.be/YwXsoqm75WY

Sorry .99, but it works for me.  Anyone have any ideas?

M.

[Red_Sunset]

3.. How different is the water level in the zed compared to the measuring tube
It is actually below all the water levels in the ZED.  But those levels vary and are difficult to distinguish and measure.  I estimated one at 58 mm and the others all at 73 mm.

Mondrasek,
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I see the following data that doesn't fit the picture the way it is supposed to fit.

The tube says 48mm head and what you see inside the zed is more,  pls check to make sure. Remember in the U-bend of the risers, you can have positive or negative head. Also make sure you ascertain the head height as "postive - negative" = actual head  (positive and negative are the opposite sides of the u=-bend.)
Things should add up correctly.

5.. What is the water height in the tube when you put the 1.2kg removable weight on
238 mm
6.. What is the water height in the tube at the end of the 10mm lift
  284 mm

I assume, You put the weight on, then you stroke 10 mm. As I see it, as you put the 1.2kg weight on, you get the 238 head (the risers & pod are floating with that weight on top)
By adding water to stroke the way you do, you basically raise the water level in the pod and the pod & risers will basically keep floating higher as the water level rises.  No head increase takes place at that point. The pressure doesn't change.  So technically the water in the pipe is expected to rise only ~10mm, in your case it is more than 4x more (46mm).

These questions need to be clarified before you can proceed to calculating .

Michel