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Overunity Machines Forum



Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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Red_Sunset

Quote from: seamus103 on October 25, 2012, 05:20:46 AM
What is the green rotating circle in the middle seemingly connected only to the 'data collection tree'? Is it a driven or driving something?
Seamuss,  you wouldn't want to know what that is, it would only confuse you.

powercat

Red_Sunset
looking back through the last four pages or so of this thread you are the only one defending Wayne's presentation
of his overunity device.
Repeatedly you make statements saying we must do our homework to understand how the device works,
and according to you it is our fault that Wayne hasn't provided enough information for us to understand
Wayne has been repeatedly asked to provide proper input and output measurements,
and when he provides anything it is incomplete and not possible to make a proper assessment,
again according to you this is our fault.

The new animation that Wayne has posted on his website is the first bit of real information that we have seen
in a long time, if only he would keep it coming and include a visit by the verification team.

You seem like a reasonably intelligent person I would like to point out that most of the members
here are also of reasonable intelligence, but for the large majority of us to support wanes claim
we will need more information, or do you expect us to have mind reading capabilities.

Now I think you will agree that Wayne has made a rod for his own back by repeatedly delaying
the verification team and not producing a proper set of measurements.

A number of us here are very suspicious of Wayne's true intentions and it is most certainly
up to him to prove his case, after all he is the one making the claim.

So we continue to wait
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

DiscerningDave

Quote from: Red_Sunset on October 25, 2012, 05:40:20 AM
You appear not to do a proper investigative exploration, you appear to jump to conclusions based on face value only. (wade through the fine print, that is where the important details are).
  "You can not SEE how it can complete a full cycle", **  based on what facts do you make this conclusion?
  "Seems to eventually settle down and stop", **  based on what facts do you make this conclusion?

Assumptions are a probability based on a most likely scenario support by a doubtful fact
** Symbolically speaking, it might pay to look at it with open eyes. What you are missing is a little work on your part.

Red,

I was making an effort to understand.  I asked some questions in an attempt to "do my homework".  Apparently you are unwilling to help me.

Yes, I probably was making conclusions based on face value.  That's all I've got to go by.  I asked some questions to try to dig deeper, but you would not answer them.

I base my conclusion that it will eventually settle down and stop on years of seeing how things work, and understanding some basic physics.  Why don't you tell us what facts you base your conclusion on that it will not stop?  The burden of proof is on those who say it will work.

Others here, such as webby1, are willing to try to answer questions to help those of us that have doubts.  Why aren't you?

So, until someone can explain to me how this machine could possibly keep running on its own, with no external input, my position is that Wayne is wrong (intentionally deceptive or not, I don't know), and you are defending the indefensible (in a most annoying fashion).

And the second half of your rant was in reply to someone else's comment.  You could have indicated that.


correcaminos

Quote from: Red_Sunset on October 24, 2012, 06:07:21 PM
YES

Thank you for your response, it was elaborate and well structured.

On to question 2.

What Laws does it expand on?


Red_Sunset

Quote from: correcaminos on October 25, 2012, 09:00:48 AM
Thank you for your response, it was elaborate and well structured.
On to question 2.
What Laws does it expand on?
To make it easy for me,  go to the master himself,
Have a look at message « Reply #2282 on: September 20, 2012, 05:42:32 PM »