Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[mondrasek]

Video from last night should be available soon  - depending on influence by Sandy....
http://youtu.be/Fwqif5q3_VY

Nice video Dale!

Converted your units so that I could compare and follow the previous test posts exactly and get:

Lift Mass = 10 lbs = 4540 g
Pressure Increase = (from 18.5 in or 470 mm rise in input tube 'manometer') 47.0 g/cm²
Volume = 12 oz = 355 ml ( or cm³)
Stroke = .75 in or 1.9 cm

This gives a comparative piston value of 355 cm³/1.9 cm = 190 cm².
At the measured volume that comparative piston would be able to lift 190 cm2 x 47.0 g/cm² = 8930 g. 
Since the lift mass was only 4540 g this is underunity at 4540/8930 = 50.8%.

Anything I missed?

M.

[Red_Sunset]

................................................... What isn't clearly stated is where that fluid comes from...........................................
......................................The ability to lift is dictated by what happens as the water level rises around the pod - that motion rearranges the air / water levels in all of the other layers. Then hydraulics kicks in and pressures become a more dominant force for stroke. ( OK - I'm not speaking for Wayne - my thoughts only  .............................................
.............................................The "fill in" volume for the outer layers: Comes from the layers themselves - reducing the differential during stroke - a major loss, at least in my .125 walled model.  ......................................
Dale

Hi Dale,
I am very impressed with your approach and work done with the model "Multi Layer Buoyancy Device".
With reference to your quote above, the riser bases are pre-provisioned with maximum allowable water,  apart from water movement in the U-bend during pre-charge (head), the stroke is the major level altering action, the 2 only components that make an impact is the riser wall thickness and the added space/volume in the riser head airspace for a length equal to the stroke distance.  The choice of stroke distance must be carefully determined to fit within the set conditions.

To certain others
The forum response to the introduction of a "bold new idea" is quite interesting.  I can not really fathom why certain people are so pre-occupied with how Mark is going to do his validation, where he is going to sleep, what to eat, what flight he will be on, what he must meassure and how. It is clear that he is already under the critique hammer, interesting!  ( Not interfering in business, not your own has always been good advice).
The assumptions that are being made about Wayne's patent content and its relationship to Rossi's is even more funny.  Your emotional hype makes for good miscellaneous reading. Keep it up!
My advice, if you have something interesting idea or concept to share,  please do not bring it to this forum. This is not the place to come, for help,  for support.

Regards,

[powercat]

My advice, if you have something interesting idea or concept to share, ** but you like peace,  please do not bring it to this forum.
Regards,

You were doing so well in the first part of your post helping someone for a change 
and then you wanted to protect your investment, and you thought attacking anyone
that disagrees or has a different opinion on the Zed is the way to do it.

This forum has plenty of interesting ideas and concepts that are being shared and not being challenged,
but as you only ever post in this thread you wouldn't know that.

The reason they are so many challenges here is that Wayne is claiming Overunity
I'll say it again Wayne is claiming Overunity did you get that.Not a concept or an idea, he says he's done it,
that is why he is being challenged and more so now since we see negative results,
Wayne still has not shown and neither has anyone else proof of Overunity.

Marks visit is Wayne's idea, except he keeps putting it off again and again, very suspicious
considering Wayne has made claims that all his devices producer Overunity (I can show the posts)
and we make it our business because most of us here are interested in Overunity.

[Red_Sunset]

You were doing so well in the first part of your post helping someone for a change 

Powercat,
Helping someone,  Did you think there was a meaningful interaction. Did you see any specific technical questions?.
You may explain what happened.

The reason they are so many challenges here is that Wayne is claiming Overunity.  Wayne still has not shown and neither has anyone else proof of Overunity.

And so he promised for a validation by Mark Dansie

Marks visit is Wayne's idea, except he keeps putting it off again and again, very suspicious
considering Wayne has made claims that all his devices producer Overunity (I can show the posts)

So Wayne is not fast enough?  or you can not be more patient?  or both?  How important is that to you and why?

A small questionnaire that could possibly clarify a lot of misunderstandings.
1.. Does Wayne still have an obligation towards this forum?
2.. Should Wayne still care about you on the forum?
3.. Should any constructed multi layer buoyancy device show OU?
4.. Do you know why there are validation delays?
5.. Have you been informed about the validation delays?
6.. What system is Mark Dansie going to test ?
7.. Is this test conducted to satisfy this forum or HER business plans?
8.. If and when the validation proofs successful,  what is your next expectation?
9.. On a successful test could you build a replication with the info you have?
10.. Why is this forum accumulating and filling still more forum pages on this topic?
11.. Being interested in OU, do you like contributing or only observing

[powercat]

@ Red
Your opinion is noted, and as you are so utterly convinced Wayne's device works you must be an investor,
probably a director family member, as you have never shown your own device ?
Your determination to try and prevent anyone suggesting Wayne's device might not work as he claims
is probably based on your keenness to see new investors get their chequebook out.

Now why don't you show me where I ever said Wayne's device doesn't work as he claims.
I keep waiting to see new evidence but it never comes it's the same with the verification.

I will keep waiting and hoping that something will improve but while it doesn't
and you keep insisting that it works without any proper evidence or verification,
I will keep posting to show you are just an arrogant salesman for Wayne's device,
and of course we must believe in the product because you say so.