Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[Red_Sunset]

There is an even simpler reason for not commenting on 2789. It does not contain any information that explains how this device could work. All it has are nonsensical assertions that are not in keeping with current physics knowledge 
Show me a verifiable working device and I'd be happy to redact any previous negative comments

Seamus,
I thought you were worth more than that simple excuse.
So then as a hypothetical example, you agree that the stated conversion capability exists ?

[TinselKoala]

Nooop, that is where you are wrong.
A working mark-1 was shown on video, together with Mark Dansie inspecting the system.

Nooooop... that is where YOU are wrong. The longest time that any "hydro differential system" or Zed has operated continually is UNDER FOUR HOURS. Do you know of a longer run? Can you document it?
The claim is that the machine will run itself indefinitely, producing useful output work. This has NEVER been demonstrated. The run times we have been told about can be accounted for by stored energy within the system.
Mark Dansie's "inspection" shown on the video you cite consisted of him looking at the thing running (unevenly... how could it have operated BY THE CLAIMED METHOD if it was running so unevenly?) after it was started by some electrical means... the pushbutton box.... and no evidence was given that the device was unpowered after that point. I pointed out some unaccounted-for wires or hoses leading from/to the machine in the video stills.... and I got insulted for my troubles, without the hoses/wires being explained.

[TinselKoala]

Seamus,
I thought you were worth more than that simple excuse.
So then as a hypothetical example, you agree that the stated conversion capability exists ?

Why do you always have to insult? How much then are YOU worth, Red_Sunset? You continually make errors in your math, you insult people gratuitously, you make claims you cannot support, and you apparently have built and tested nothing of your own. How much, then, are YOU worth? You cannot refute anything that Seamus10n has said about physics or the impossibility of MrWayne's system working as claimed. So you resort to insults and specious argumentation, as above.

In some recent postings, we have learned that Mister Wayne considers air conditioners to be overunity. And it seems that his definition of "overunity" as applied to air conditioners might also be the same as applied to the Zed "hydro differential system" or whatever you want to call it.

That is all why I am stressing the following so much: WHERE IS THE "SIMPLE THREE LAYER SYSTEM THAT IS CLEARLY OVERUNITY BY ITSELF"? These are mister Wayne's exact words. How was the "clear overunity" determined and what is the work in/work out of this simple three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself?

The fact that this simple three layer system that is clearly overunity by itself cannot be produced, described, demonstrated, or explained should be telling you something, Red_Sunset. Are you paying attention?

[Red_Sunset]

Nooooop... that is where YOU are wrong. The longest time that any "hydro differential system" or Zed has operated continually is UNDER FOUR HOURS. Do you know of a longer run? Can you document it?
The claim is that the machine will run itself indefinitely, producing useful output work. This has NEVER been demonstrated. The run times we have been told about can be accounted for by stored energy within the system.
Mark Dansie's "inspection" shown on the video you cite consisted of him looking at the thing running (unevenly... how could it have operated BY THE CLAIMED METHOD if it was running so unevenly?) after it was started by some electrical means... the pushbutton box.... and no evidence was given that the device was unpowered after that point. I pointed out some unaccounted-for wires or hoses leading from/to the machine in the video stills.... and I got insulted for my troubles, without the hoses/wires being explained.

TinselKoala,
WOoooh...I thought that I was fairly good at mastering the English language and believed that American was quite similar.
Never realized that "Let me translate that into English for you:  It didn't work." could mean so many things!
To demonstrate "Indefinitely" is going to take a 'bloody long time' in all contexts,
All jokes aside,
This was a bit of a overdose, especially implying that Mark as a OU/FE validation investigator doesn't see on site what you are imagining to see from a video. This is going to be promising for the next validation exercise coming up.
Let's not allow it to slide into the ridiculous

[Red_Sunset]

Why do you always have to insult? How much then are YOU worth, Red_Sunset? You continually make errors in your math, you insult people gratuitously, you make claims you cannot support,  ..................................................

TinselKoala,
I disagree with you regarding, "I thought you were worth more than that simple excuse." it is not an insult, it is an encouragement to allow a greater exposure.
All what is being said is that I did hold him in high regards and he(seamus) is short changing himself (demoting himself) by hiding behind a simple excuse, (which is  behind the standard physic book texts) on an OU site that wants to break through the thermodynamics barrier. ( a bit of irony).
It does imply that his respectable expert (learned) status is diminishing in my eyes by his non-action. He can correct that at any time of his choosing, maybe he needs more time to be ready, no problem, but until then.....
If you think that Seamus is making a beneficial contribution and doing the correct thing, then we differ in opinion.
In the same vain, yours is not fairing so good either, when I grade your posts for content accuracy. For example let me restate below what Wayne said about an "air conditioner" and compare that with your recall. A totally different meaning.

Wayne message  « Reply #2282 on: September 20, 2012, 05:42:32 PM »
An air conditioner is the better example - being overunity - The BTU of the system is greater that the input of electricity - it is OverUnity unless you account for the energy exchange in the temperature differential of the outside air - which like the ZED uses gravity - you can not physically see the input.

Education and clarity - the temperature differential in an air conditioner can be accounted for - and has been - still it is a OU device - the input of energy from the temperature differential is not part of the internal operating cost. This is a clear examples of a OU device - not magic or energy creation - just simple physics - already accepted and understood.

I have stated - in reference to the question that our system is Over Unity - defined by the input cost to the output of the system - but like the air-conditioner needs to account for the temperature differential  - if you account for our unique use of energy from our unique "Mass displacement" and the effect we capture from gravity - the system can be understood and calculated as well.

The difference our system has over an air conditioner being - we have enough of a gain to provide our own input cost - and provide a NET