Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[MileHigh]

Red_Sunset:

We can all have a very frank discussion in the Spring 0f 2013 assuming that Wayne never delivers and the thread is moribund and people have run out of ideas.

For example, why would a skeptic lower himself to a low level to disprove someone's understanding on something he can not understand yet.

Yes, you can keep on trying to pretend that there is something to understand.  Certainly you have some people that believe you.  Who knows, perhaps you are even believing it yourself.

As far as science being advanced by the anarchists and quacks goes, of course that can happen sometimes.  Other times it does not.  Look at the quasi cult of Marko Rodin.  I would hazard a guess that Marko Rodin does not even know how an inductor works.  I would also hazard a guess that not a single problem has been solved using "Rodin mathematics."  I would call a Rodin coil a "leaky" coil, just like you can purchase "leaky" coax cable.  Leaky coax cable serves a useful purpose, but I don't think Marko Rodin's leaky coil serves any purpose.

It will all come out in the wash on April 1st, 2013 and we can all talk.  Until then I suppose that we are running in "faint hope" mode and some of us are giving Wayne the benefit of the doubt.

MileHigh

[LarryC]

He hasn't been suppressed by Big Oil, hasn't suffered the fate of so many other Free Energy discoverers..... he's just been working quietly in southern Oklahoma for years, making free energy (between leaks and rebuilds) and nobody seems to be noticing.  It doesn't seem like he's even up to the Rossi standard: at least Rossi got some interest from NASA, and scientific journalists from around the world are following Rossi's story. But Mister Wayne is like the best kept secret in the backwaters of Oklahoma. Maybe that's why he started posting here, on this reknowned international free energy open source forum -- he's trying to catch up with Rossi, because if Rossi's device hits the market before the HDPE does, nobody is going to want one of Mister Wayne's noisy, inefficient, huge kludges, when you can just hook up a small, quiet, COP>6 cold fusion ECat to your home for all your energy needs.

"please continue, Governor"

[mondrasek]

Does LarryC's spreadsheet accurately model the behaviour of your system? Facts are, after all, facts.

Unfortunately LarryC does not have a spreadsheet for the "2 Layer" (1 Pod/2 Riser) system that I am testing.  His was for a 3 Layer (1 Pod/3 Risers) system that supposedly is the one you've been asking about.  I guess I missunderstood the meaning of "3 Layer" and just assumed that terminology was used for what was presented in the diagrams of the patent application.

I'd love to see what a spreadsheet like LarryC's would predict if it was for a "2 Layer" system like I am testing.  But I am no spreadsheet guru and realy can't fathom putting in the time to modify what he has already provided at this point and time.  Hell, I've barely got enough time to test the thing I have now!  If anyone else wants to have a go at modifying LarryC work for my case, that would be great.

Cheers,

M.

[Xaverius]

The time for pre-validation will lapse in 9 hours(3:30 CST, now).  Mark Dansie's response and appearance are imminent.  The world is ready for free energy.  Anticipation..........

[TinselKoala]

Unfortunately LarryC does not have a spreadsheet for the "2 Layer" (1 Pod/2 Riser) system that I am testing.  His was for a 3 Layer (1 Pod/3 Risers) system that supposedly is the one you've been asking about.  I guess I missunderstood the meaning of "3 Layer" and just assumed that terminology was used for what was presented in the diagrams of the patent application.

I'd love to see what a spreadsheet like LarryC's would predict if it was for a "2 Layer" system like I am testing.  But I am no spreadsheet guru and realy can't fathom putting in the time to modify what he has already provided at this point and time.  Hell, I've barely got enough time to test the thing I have now!  If anyone else wants to have a go at modifying LarryC work for my case, that would be great.

Cheers,

M.

I agree, it would seem _necessary_ for any spreadsheet to be validated against known systems. And I have no idea how LarryC's spreadsheet is organised, but from my own spreadsheet experience, it might be possible to change the spreadsheet, or add to it, to make it model 2, or 3, or 4 or even 5 layers of a zed. Certainly it should be easier to do that, than for you to modify your hardware to fit the "three layer" definition.

So let me see if I've got the sequence of events right.

You announced your intention to build a "three layer system" and told us all about the materials and plans, and you gave us photos of your build and preliminary tests and so on, including a full description of how your layering was done.

Then you got up to the point where your system was behaving consistently and you started posting real, usable numbers for input and output lift weights and distances and so forth.

Then, when you started posting your "efficiency numbers" showing a relatively low overall efficiency.....

ONLY THEN did any of the people "in the know" inform you that your system wasn't a three-layer system at all and so your results don't matter.

Did I leave something out?