Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[DiscerningDave]

Where is the " simple, three layer system that is clearly overunity BY ITSELF" (MrWayne's exact words), how was its clear overunity determined, what is the input/output work of this simple system?

The "by itself" part: I've always interpreted this to mean, from context, that Mister Wayne was talking about a single Zed. Otherwise why include the "by itself"?

TK, I think you've misinterpreted the "by itself" part.  I think this means the "simple, three-layer system" is only overunity when it is completely by itself.  If anyone is around watching it, or tries hooking up any measurement instrumentation, it gets nervous and becomes underunity.

If a simple, three-layer system runs in the forest and no one is around to see it, does it violate the laws of physics?

[minnie]

Hi there,
             I loved one of the original videos of this great machine groaning,ticking and clicking and have been watching progress since then.
TK. is asking all the right questions and all that seems to emerge is page after page of waffle.
   Come on mrwayne give us something real

[GreenHiker]

TK -

I find it strange that three native speakers of English strongly objected to the way you handled yourself on this board yet you find your posts fitting. You say it is you that is being attacked. Hmmm.

You are entitled to your opinion. You may also continue to use your other Member names that you spawned, to agree with yourself.

I stand by my original advice to you though.

Tom

[TinselKoala]

This post is mostly for TinselKoala, because he tries so hard to show the errors of Mr. Wayne and his ardent followers.

Psychological studies have proven, a strong believe system can not be destroyed. So, no matter what amount of words, or scientific and technical arguments, or even actual proof that the system is not OU, nothing will ever convince Mr. Wayne and his apostles.

TinselKoala already made this tiring experience with RosiPosi (and probably with many more OU-inventors).

See this story about the three Christs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Christs_of_Ypsilanti , http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2010/05/jesus_jesus_jesus.html .

You will see, there is no cure.

This thread is now in the realm of psychology. And unfortunately, there is no pill and no treatment. The sufferers hold on to their illusions till they depart.

Greetings, Conrad

Thanks, Conrad.

I do have some history of examining the more absurd claims and claimants.

Rosemary Ainlsie, since 2009 -- I built and tested both the circuits she claimed to produce COP 17 and COP > Infinity (sic -- she really did claim that in all seriousness) and found that they do no such thing. I've got a duplicate of her COP INFINITY device right here, and anyone who likes is welcome to examine it and verify that it is what Ainslie "designed" and that it produces the same "evidence" for OU that she cited.... but is not OU. And I've been attacked and libelled continuously by her since then.... but ALL of her early collaborators and sycophants know now that I am correct and was all along. Bait, and switch. The first COP 17 claim was blasted out of the water and while trying herself to reproduce her own claimed results with that circuit and failing.... she came up with the NERD kludge, miswired her own demonstration device, lied about the schematic in use for over a month in this forum, and started her claims of COP > Infinity. This is still going on, too: I invite anyone who is interested to take a look at Ainslie and how she talks about me.... or rather Bryan Little, who she thinks, in her deluded trollness, I am.

Archer Quinn and the Sword of God: very similar to this case, Quinn claimed to have a working magnet/gravity wheel and carried on a long set of threads here pretending to "teach" people how to build one. People sent him money, which he spent on cigarettes and magnets, and finally when it became clear to all that he was a fraud, just as I had been telling them.... he vanished into the Australian outback. This one was so stupid that I saw no need at all to build anything to debunk it.... but many people DID believe him, spent money and sent him money. Bait, and switch: he went through several different radical "redesigns" before his last supporters fell away; the first builders were bemused at all the changes in his Sword of God that was already supposed to work before he started his threads.

MyLOW -- claimed to have built a HJ magnet motor that worked. Fraudster from the very beginning, he had "site visits" of the typical kind, he cynically showed himself visiting the grave of Howard Johnson, he measured his magnet position to the hundredth of a millimeter using a caliper that he bought with money people sent him.... all the while, I was telling everyone that he was a fraud, and I actually replicated his fraudulent technique and got him to admit that I was right and that he was faking. There's a lot more to this story, including him involving his brother and his wife in the fraud. Where is Mylow and his magic HJ motor now? Where is the award that Sterling Allan promised for the first replication of Mylow's motor, which I made, and which he acknowledged...... but he refused to actually GIVE me the promised award, because my replication of Mylow's motor and his drive system .... wasn't OU. It didn't seem to matter to Sterling that Mylow's wasn't either and that I used EXACTLY THE SAME method of driving that MyLow did: my replication was exact in all significant aspects. But no award for TK.... Very similar to the present case, where Webby got his two thousand dollars for his build, but when I demonstrate a perpetual self-powered water pump using a Zed system effectively .... I get nothing, because it's clear that my system is NOT OU. Bait... and switch.

Mondrasek's magnet assisted gravity wheel.... this one was interesting enough to me, since he did have a "new" idea, for me to do an all-out build, and my colleague JK came up with a good system for "latching" the magnets in the proper position to provide the weight shift.... and my build of the device "almost" works as Mond intended. With the addition of negative friction coefficient bearings, it would work just fine. I have some on order but the anticipated delivery date is sometime in 2024, and I just couldn't wait. Mond should tell you about that, though.... loss of sleep from his excitement, patent search, fees spent, time lost..... and finally he calculated correctly and convinced himself that his wheel is a non-starter. But I show it off to everyone who visits my other lab, and everyone is amazed... it really IS the best magnet/gravity wheel they've seen. Too bad it stops turning after a few turns. No bait and switch here: Mondrasek is the first and as far as I can tell the ONLY person I've seen make these claims with the integrity to admit that he was wrong in his idee fixe and correct his mistakes. That makes him an outstanding example and in spite of the accusations against me here, I hold him in the greatest regard for his honesty and integrity. And he knows this, so I care not one whit about the false accusations that I "attack" or disrespect Mondrasek.

Steorn's Orbo pulse motor and the claims of perpetual motion from a PM-only device....I analyzed their first Kinetica Orbo and determined that it was identical to Kohei Minato's claimed overunity magnet motor, in fact likely infringing on Minato's very real US patents, and would work just fine as long as the stator magnet was hand-held.  I built 2 major iterations of their electrically powered Orbo pulse motor, confirmed the "core effect" as a viable principle for driving a pulse motor, something that surprised me.... and which was the major Red Herring that fooled many people into believing in Steorn and perhaps even investing. I was actually the FIRST, even before McCarthy and his ilk, to show output power lighting LEDs from an Orbo motor, and if their claims were true, that light from my LEDs was FREE ENERGY in use. I also reproduced their instrumental measurements on my second Orbo, Orbette 2.0, and determined how the negatively accumulating energy integral was obtained in their video demonstrations. Where is Orbo now? Nowhere. Steorn is no longer making overunity free energy claims, and they've abandoned the motor with moving parts altogether, and are pushing a heater that uses a large thermal mass, kept hot, to heat a little water quickly. In short.... they are now trying to sell an on-demand electric water heater, and they've burned through over twenty million Euro over the years without producing a single Joule of excess energy. Bait, and switch. The original investors thought they were investing in a magnet motor that ran itself.

Rossi--- when he showed his ECat, on Krivit's video, making what he claimed was great output of steam, but only showed a little trickle coming out of the tube.... I boiled some water using the same input power that he used, and got the same small output of steam he showed, approximately, and then I used the power he _claimed_ was being output..... and I (and many others) got HUGE GOUTS of steam, far far more than Rossi showed. This proved to me, and many other people, that that demonstration at least was a hoax. Further examination of the Rossi story shows that he is a convicted fraudster, has done time in jail over his "petroldragon" waste oil recycling scam, has previously defrauded the US DoD with a "thermoelectric module" of high efficiency, that he could never deliver and that was finally scotched by a suspicious "factory fire".... and the thermoelectric modules of Rossi are never heard from again. Years later he comes up with the ECat, and has done the Mister Wayne thing of baiting and switching. Where is one of Rossi's early ECat systems, that he claimed worked clearly producing COP 6? Gone, that's where. Nobody will be able to test any Rossi system independently and comprehensively. Even his "one Megawatt" unit only made less than half that during its demo, and there was a 500 kW Diesel genset running the whole time of that demonstration.... and I wonder why. The Rossi story isn't over, but my involvement building hardware is. The Bait-and-Switch technique is very effective against replicators who get too close to the truth.... the model they try to replicate vanishes and a NEW better model using different principles is unveiled, so the claimant can stay a step ahead of his detractors. Just as in the present case and in the case of Steorn.

There are a few more projects that I've worked on, but these should show anyone who cares that I am willing to build stuff to examine claims, and that I have been right many times about my evaluations of various claimants and their projects. In fact, nobody that I have ever "accused" of not having what they claim... has actually HAD what they claim. Nobody. Could Mister Wayne be the very first one to PROVE ME WRONG? I think it's quite unlikely, but I'm willing to observe, and if I am wrong in this instance I'll gladly and happily admit it and apologise to anyone whose feathers I've ruffled. But the other way around.... it will never happen. The only person who I've debunked that still occasionally speaks kindly to me is Mondrasek. The others have vanished, except for Ainslie, who is like a zombie that cannot be stopped by any natural means, even though they are dead and the decaying flesh is falling from their bones. Figuratively of course. No apologies from anyone.

Much of my work with the claimants I cite above is documented in literally hundreds of video demonstrations on my YT channel. Insult me for my skepticism and my work and my attitude.... get in line, because you are in a long queue with lots of company. Try to prove me wrong (something that I welcome and encourage and challenge every one of my detractors with) ..... and you will find yourself alone, because nobody has done that yet.

[TinselKoala]

TK -

I find it strange that three native speakers of English strongly objected to the way you handled yourself on this board yet you find your posts fitting. You say it is you that is being attacked. Hmmm.

You are entitled to your opininion. You may also continue to use your other Member names that you spawned, to agree with yourself.

I stand by my original advice to you though.

Tom

So now it appears that you are accusing me of having multiple accounts and sock puppets here. Where is your evidence for that? Stefan Hartmann, the owner of this site, can tell you just how wrong you are, since he has the IP logs. Why don't you ask him how many accounts I have here. Other member names that I spawned..... you are funny. It is as if you just cannot believe that anyone would possibly agree with me, and you believe that similar criticisms must be coming from the same person.
I stand by my original advice to you and all my detractors: Prove Me Wrong, with demonstrations, facts, outside checkable references. If you can't... then you may resort to the usual insults and mud slinging and lies... like your accusation that I am "spawning" multiple usernames. I don't really mind all that much because it says more about YOU than it does about me.