Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[TinselKoala]

Funny.... the pod rises up until it contacts the underside of the riser assembly. This presses upwards with the 919 pounds of pod lift... but it removes a lot of surface area for the gas psi to act against...
Or it doesn't rise up to contact.. maybe there's a blue spacer in there that allows gas pressure to get in there. The gas pressure that is also pressing down on the pod, with the same psi as it's pressing up on the riser...

[LarryC]

Yet you add displacement lift ("Pod lift", buoyancy) plus psi x si to arrive at your total lift figure.Yet your "pod" isn't actually lifting, is it? Does it contact the underside of the riser? If it does, doesn't that remove the corresponding surface area for the "psi" to act on?

Now, you're getting ridiculous.

The pod has spacers on top or below the riser as explained many times previously about the physical system. I don't show everything to be able to clearly show the values. Yes, each unit can have a different force calculation type and be added together. I'm amazed you don't understand these simple concepts.

   

[LarryC]

Funny.... the pod rises up until it contacts the underside of the riser assembly. This presses upwards with the 919 pounds of pod lift... but it removes a lot of surface area for the gas psi to act against...
Or it doesn't rise up to contact.. maybe there's a blue spacer in there that allows gas pressure to get in there. The gas pressure that is also pressing down on the pod, with the same psi as it's pressing up on the riser...

Geez, you're obiviously on something. This is my last response, until you get back to normal.

[TinselKoala]

Geez, you're obiviously on something. This is my last response, until you get back to normal.

Promise?

Let's see your spreadsheet model Mondrasek's actual physical system. Then you can tell him just where he's going wrong and why he isn't getting overunity from his system that has more layers than your example.

You can mock me personally all you like, LarryC, and perhaps my calculations might not apply or be wrong in some manner. I'm fully willing to be proven wrong by measurements on a real system, especially one that runs itself. Unfortunately the real systems for which we have data don't look anything like what you are modelling and all yield less performance than your spreadsheet.

It's too bad you can't run your house on your spreadsheet. And it's really too bad that work is more than just force.

[LarryC]

TinselKoala,  >>  RE: Why is MY result even greater than yours? >>>For a very simple reason, ask maggie, she knows!
                     >>  RE: And yet you do not dispute any of my points. >>> You fill me with disgust !
Larry >> What are you trying to do ?  >>  Do not present math beyond basic elementary level !  TK is not ready for that complexity level yet.

TK, Due to the stacked water column, the top and bottom experience the same base pressure level, therefore only the differential matter.
I don't know how you are going to figure out the Zed,  I think we need a better skeptic here !!

Agreed,

@Fletcher, would you please like to discuss post #3098, page 207?

Thanks, Larry