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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: see3d on November 12, 2012, 11:47:08 PM
Is there a way we can fork off another thread from this one?  One with the sole purpose of sharing and discussing the collection of data from builds, sims, and spreadsheet formulas.  It should be heavily moderated so that all off topic or non-objective data related posts are immediately deleted.  This will make it possible for people to be able to read all the posts in a few hours instead of a few weeks to catch up with what was posted.

I am not being sarcastic here, I am serious.

I have come to the end of my available time to read through non-objective posts.  I am wasting an hour a day.  If there is no way to stay Laser focused only on the data on this thread, I will have to remove myself from reading and posting here.  I will have to do all my work through emails to individuals instead.  Everyone else can carry on with their head trips without me.  Life is too short for me to waste it associating with attitudes that are diametrically opposed to my own.

~Dennis
The kind of "moderation" you are asking for is actually called "censorship." There's a forum for that: Energetic Forum. Why don't you start a thread over there? You'll get just what you ask for, then. Anyone who doesn't agree with whatever claims happen to catch the eye of the operators of that site find themselves banned and deleted in short order. You'll fit right in.

Pirate88179

Quote from: mrwayne on November 12, 2012, 10:26:34 PM
Hello again Bill,
I have answered this before, and thank you for the well wishes.
Open source - is a choice - crude or not - site name or not - we rebuilt the garden at the pregnancy crisis center and I am not obligated to be pregnant - but I get your point -
Stefan asked my motive, and he accepted what my intent was from the beginning - and since this is his site - I presume that is OK.
To be clear - I have read all the arguments and rants - I will share what I will with who I will.
I was more willing to share until some members began claiming they were here to steal and sell, and or turn in papers on the principal - we know not all people are good people. We are not naive and we have cleared what we share thru our attorneys.
The Fact of the matter is this:
My design has so many applications that it is truly a new frontier - we are gathering team members and connections to do what open source can not do - fund, protect, and provide assurance that this free energy device is delivered to customers.
p.s. we will be doing some of the funding.
Each of our members has the authorization to utilize our design, improve on it, and create new applications - we are open source in our protected, selected group - we came here to share teach and recruit. Those willing have made themselves known.
Open source in a selective manner - do you see how we have been treated here?
It has been worth it - we have met some great friends - and have been blessed by many visitors who would never post on this site - but heard about us thru it - this has been our invitation to some great men and women.
I was amazed that they were not deterred by the negativity - but I myself had never been to the site before - so everyone was like a new friend - well until the made it clear they had taken sides against us...... then it was clear.
And one more comment - just for fun - Pirate cruising on an open forum site - what gives.....spooky if I did not have such a solid IP.
Thanks Pirate - I appreciate your time and question. This whole process takes very good business planning, very thorough due diligence -
  Wayne Travis
President
HydroEnergy Revolution LLC
mr.wayne@hydroenergyrevolution.com

MrWayne:

Thank you for the reply.  As Tom pointed out in his above post, I was not aware of those arrangements with Stefan.  I do not agree with it but, it is Stefan's site and I respect that.

I do greatly appreciate your prompt reply and I really do wish you luck.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Red_Sunset

Quote from: see3d on November 12, 2012, 11:47:08 PM
Is there a way we can fork off another thread from this one?  One with the sole purpose of sharing and discussing the collection of data from builds, sims, and spreadsheet formulas.  It should be heavily moderated so that all off topic or non-objective data related posts are immediately deleted.  This will make it possible for people to be able to read all the posts in a few hours instead of a few weeks to catch up with what was posted.

I am not being sarcastic here, I am serious.

I have come to the end of my available time to read through non-objective posts.  I am wasting an hour a day.  If there is no way to stay Laser focused only on the data on this thread, I will have to remove myself from reading and posting here.  I will have to do all my work through emails to individuals instead.  Everyone else can carry on with their head trips without me.  Life is too short for me to waste it associating with attitudes that are diametrically opposed to my own.
~Dennis

Hi Dennis,
You are right, the same has been also playing in my head for a while to get some normalized productivity back into the topic. The additional thread can include theory and SIM  together and the current thread can maintain its mud slinging status.

Proposed Hydro Differential threads
1.. Theory and SIM development  to delve into and unravel the science behind the Travis principle, for the serious technical minded people and to support the development of the sim.
2.. Tracking Wayne, prototype & debunkers thread, this can include all physical builds and replications, where the slingers,  skeptics like an akin TinselKoala, PowerCat, Minnie and others can track and project manage Wayne's and other builders.  Do their de-bunking, present their unsupported "can not work" statements and where all thrashing can take place here to their hearts delight. 

A separation along these lines will optimize the communication and reduce the unrelated disturbances we have seen this far.
Good idea See3D !

Red_Sunset

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 13, 2012, 12:03:09 AM
.............................................I say that you are a hypocrite.

This website supports "FREEDOM OF SPEECH"
Therefore you are entitled to your opinion and to produce more trash !!

Just an observation on the standard flow on fact deduction by you and certain others here,
* You state   
"So that's a "no", then. You cannot refute any of the points I've made, so you prefer to continue with your personal attacks upon me, your insults, your foul language and mud slinging..... "
** Analysis to demonstrate your leap frogging from assumption to fact
So that's a "no", =               nobody said "NO"
then. You cannot refute any of the points I've made,  =           assumption based on the previous non-existing "No">> deduction>> into "FACT"
so you prefer to continue with your personal attacks upon me, =            Assumption of intent
your foul language and mud slinging....=            descriptive action content
...I say that you are a hypocrite. =           conclusion becomes "FACT" based on a previous "FACT" that was "NOT A FACT AT ALL"

This flow technique of "assumption , deduction" into "fact" can be seen all over this thread into the science of things
Some common examples:
**  "I don't understand" > then it cannot work as said >> it is impossible >>>it must be a lie >>> now LIE is a FACT  (at least in the head of the perpetrator)
**  " I cannot figure out how it works" > "I don't understand" >> I have not seen the work model yet>>> then inventor is a lie (same leap of the same frog)

Just poor logic,
It is sad to see such "unscientific leap frogging", a sad and poor performance from a bunch of assumed scientists/engineers/amateurs

Red_Sunset

What is so interesting of the phenomen, as seen here as it is taking place here under our own noses ? It typifies a common human behavior that shows how the mind is so dominantly influenced by our emotions and other underlying usualy benefit interests.
The topic subject appears to be a pure science matter, if it would be that only, there would be no problem. But this science has great beneficial financial implications and this changes the playing field dramatically. It explains the rush of the last 100 posts in the last 2 days.

Why do I think that ?  Purely by watching the behavior flow.  It still puzzles me WHY someone who doesn't believe in the concept presented or its execution to be a working possibility, after stating his belief, REMAINS SO VEHEMENTLY domineering on this topic ?  WHY ?  What is his interest ?  What can he gain to stay here and what can he loose to leave ?
I think it is time we investigate certain individuals to their connections and interest domains.  This might be quite a eyeopener.

I believe that " WE NEVER DO SOMETHING WITHOUT REASON",  The more difficult this something is, the stronger the reason. The most common reason is financial benefit !

This brings up some pertinent questions
1,, Why does this behavior manifest here?
2.. Who are domineering this thread ?
3.. What is their target to be domineering?
4.. What is their purpose to act as they do ?
5.. I there more to their behavior than just technical or emotional enthusiasm ?
6.. Do they have something to gain by acting in a specific way?
7.. What is their possible short and long term perceived benefit by their action?
........ect  feel free to add on points of interest as you see fit