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Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

Started by mrwayne, April 10, 2011, 04:07:24 AM

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mondrasek

@TK, the reply was in response to Bill.  As Dr. Phil would say, "It ain't about you!"

But I'll play if you want.

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 14, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
omitting the fact that Mark was not at all convinced.......

This is a pure misrepresentation.  Absolutely not what MD has presented.  It is only what you have decided to say he presented?

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 14, 2012, 10:49:31 AM
So fine, Mondrasek, you want to feel hurt because you need to see hostility somewhere... I suggest you examine where your own hostility lies and where it comes from. It's frustrating, isn't it, to build something in public, only to find that you aren't going to be getting any help at all from the other believers to make a system that applies to the claims being made, and to realize that the only real help you got... came from the skeptic who you are now turning against.

I'm not turning against anyone.  I have only stated my opinion of what has transpired in the context of the subject that Bill brought up.

I get plenty of help from the "believers" as you call them.  But I actually don't ask for much.  I communicate almost exclusively with those that I consider "investigators", not as you label them, "believers."  Very few have posted public testing data recently, and can you blame them?  Last time I did you nor anyone else bothered to check out or comment seriously on the data.  Shortly after I posted how that data appeared to be able to predict a maximum efficiency of 87% for a dual system.  Yes, 87, not 86 or 88.  Again, no one here commented seriously on that calculation.  I even specifically requested that you do those two things even later.  And did you? 

For those who want to test and analyze models and calculators of the ideas presented here, this is no longer the place.  Those efforts are drowned out by other "discussions."  I have no problem with those who want to have those discussion, or those discussions themselves.  But they get in the way with what some others want to do.  And so it is correct that we move to a place where we can do that.

M.


Red_Sunset

Quote from: mondrasek on November 14, 2012, 12:40:11 PM
@TK, the reply was in response to Bill.  As Dr. Phil would say, "It ain't about you!"

But I'll play if you want.
 
This is a pure misrepresentation.  Absolutely not what MD has presented.  It is only what you have decided to say he presented?

I'm not turning against anyone.  I have only stated my opinion of what has transpired in the context of the subject that Bill brought up.

I get plenty of help from the "believers" as you call them.  But I actually don't ask for much.  I communicate almost exclusively with those that I consider "investigators", not as you label them, "believers."  Very few have posted public testing data recently, and can you blame them?  Last time I did you nor anyone else bothered to check out or comment seriously on the data.  Shortly after I posted how that data appeared to be able to predict a maximum efficiency of 87% for a dual system.  Yes, 87, not 86 or 88.  Again, no one here commented seriously on that calculation.  I even specifically requested that you do those two things even later.  And did you? 

For those who want to test and analyze models and calculators of the ideas presented here, this is no longer the place.  Those efforts are drowned out by other "discussions."  I have no problem with those who want to have those discussion, or those discussions themselves.  But they get in the way with what some others want to do.  And so it is correct that we move to a place where we can do that.
M.

Mondrasek,        YOU ARE A REAL GENTLEMEN       (as in fine English tradition)

Red_Sunset

Quote from: webby1 on November 14, 2012, 01:27:55 PM
I was incorrect in giving you the credit for telling me I would need to push the risers back down,, my bad.
And point 2 kettle pot black.  You need to be taught so you need to learn and listen,, not the other way TK.

Webby1,   you are a man to my heart.
A bit of assertiveness is a positive attribute,  and required to maintain a position.
Without any intent to take any shine away from you, may I rephrase the last sentence,
**  "To learn, you need to be taught to listen",  a quality you haven't mastered yet

powercat

An internal validation hmmm that's a new one, I presume if he's not happy then the external one will not go ahead.
http://hydroenergyrevolution.com/index.php/current-objectives
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

powercat

Quote from: webby1 on Today at 07:01:45 PM
QuoteWell that is jumping to conclusions,, and then some.

I did say (maybe) and let's face it receiving $2000 can influence people, so I think it was not
unreasonable to say maybe, you also seem a bit vague on how much obvious clear over unity you got.
QuoteI am not the master of this process, I have a basic understanding that is allowing me to make logical steps into areas that may open the door of understanding, at least for me,, all the way.  I have been sharing what I think and what I have observed with those that I care to share with, including "new" items of interest.

Yes it is great when that is actually happening but that was quite some time ago, recently
all we get is posts from Red attacking anyone for suggesting that there isn't enough evidence,
I suggest if there was enough evidence why haven't the replicators achieve their goals,
And please don't blame it on the sceptics you can put them on ignore and not read their posts.

I have really enjoyed your input and I really believe that this was going to lead somewhere
But it's all turning out to be such a familiar story of no real overunity being proven.

QuoteFor me to share the stuff I think I understand on this forum has become somewhat a waste of time, the little bits I try to put out there get lost in the plethora of noise.

And as for your information getting lost, anyone can click on your name and look at all
your previous posts, and you and the other believers can put the sceptics on ignore.

I would love to apologise and see real evidence that this device works, instead of getting
constant delays and excuses from MrWayne and attacks from Mr Red.
According to those two the information to produce clear overunity is obvious and in this thread.
I guess we all must have missed it as no one has shown any clear overunity.

Good luck Webby I really hope you're not flogging a dead horse.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall