Hydro Differential pressure exchange over unity system.

[powercat]

No my friend - we have plenty of good skeptics on our team - we are just tired of interuptions by less than respectful people.
You and a few others blew your oppurtunity to be part of this New Energy Frontier.
p.s.    We have not run away - Arrogance, Ego, Ignorance, Obscurificatiousness, and U ---  have been discarded.
Wayne

First you address me as your friend then you say I have been "discarded" truly you are a man of great contradiction,
how long do you think you will last in your private group when your words don't deliver what you claim,
and no one included you can deliver a verifiable self-running device.

Webby
http://www.overunity.com/10596/hydro-differential-pressure-exchange-over-unity-system/msg344242/#msg344242

Well you disagreed with TK and your disagreeing with me that's fine, it would have been nice
if somebody else could have matched your clear overunity claim, maybe three months isn't
enough time, and maybe that money has had some influence...you never did come up with a
self-runner, well that's something in common you have with Wayne.

At some point in the future the truth about this will be obvious to all,
given the amount of time that this information has been out isn't it a bit strange
that we haven't seen more demonstrations of obvious clear overunity ? apart from
Mr Wayne and yourself.

TK,
these are Wayne's words  "the Rotary ZED - which is 'Patent Pending"
I think that must mean internal patent pending as looking externally this is the only one I can find.
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120117957

[TinselKoala]

There are a lot of things that I disagree with TK on, my fresh made espresso is better than his instant,, so what.

(snip)

Interesting that you should mention that. When you add sufficient energy to some water to raise it up to 212 degrees F, and then add even more energy, you wind up increasing its volume by a factor of about 1600 times, rather suddenly. It is this increase in volume, inside a confined space, that drives the hot water/steam through your very fine grind dark espresso roast of your San Cristobal fair trade organic coffee beans. And further, it is this same pressure and superheated water vapor... aka steam... that you use to make Mrs. Webby's frothed skim milk for her cappuccino.

I'm sure you will have noticed that your espresso machine cannot achieve this pressure increase and steam production.... unless it is plugged into a power source. Of course you might have one of those muscle-powered ones with the big handle you pull down.... but you still need steam for your cappuccino.

Excuse me, you've made me thirsty, I think I need another cup of microwaved Folger's Instant.

[TinselKoala]

(snip)
TK,
these are Wayne's words  "the Rotary ZED - which is 'Patent Pending"
I think that must mean internal patent pending as looking externally this is the only one I can find.
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120117957

Hmm. I wonder if it has been filed, but just not published yet. Or perhaps it's a typo, like listing Mark Dansie under the "investors" column was; maybe he meant to say "Patent Pending Pending". I mean, according to the Wiki, it is considered deception to use the term "Patent Pending" unless an application has actually been filed. In some countries, like Australia, you are even supposed to cite the number of the patent application along with the words "Patent Pending".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_pending
We know Mister Wayne is never deceptive. So we must be missing something somewhere.
Can anyone tell us where the patent application for the "Patent Pending" Rotary Zed can be found?

[TinselKoala]

You can choose to not have them published from filing all the way until it is issued.

I see. So you know that he's applied, and selected this option of non-publication? Just the number of the application would be fine, I know that is supposed to be a matter of public record.
You might select non-publication as a way of keeping your IP secret, naturally. So you can talk about it on internet websites and with your investors, without actually having to reveal anything of substance in public. What are secrets for, after all?

I think that's probably why, in places like Australia, you have to include the application number along with the phrase "patent pending". Otherwise, anyone could claim "patent pending" for anything, and other people working in that area would be deterred, or worried about infringement....... even if no application has actually been filed.

This is kind of like the clever "NDA" ploy that is often used in cases of this type (and there have been quite a few). Rossi and Steorn and certain... other operations... come to mind. You invite outside engineers and scientists to view your device, making them sign an ironclad NDA first. Then you show them something they have to agree with; perhaps measurements of a system that demonstrates some basic principle that is alleged to be important to the claim... but of course they don't see an actual working free energy machine. Then, the claimant can say that he's had engineers and scientists visit, and that they came away impressed and in agreement that what they were shown was real. But the engineers and scientists themselves are gagged by the NDA and can't reveal what it was they actually saw or agreed with... and we never even get to know their names or affiliations.

[powercat]

I know of several builders, but the three of us that have posted here are the only ones that have, that is all you know and all you can know.

That one made me laugh, and people have accuse me of being presumptuous.....Do you really think
in all the years I have been involved in the free energy community I have only looked at this forum ?
Get real but I guess that's your difficulty,
so we are going to have to agree to disagree on what we believe ?

It is my choice to post in this forum because I believe it allows for freedom of speech....They are also
great members here that will not be stopped by bullying to get to the real scientifically provable truth.

Good luck in Wayne's private group whatever you do don't say anything to offend him or you will get band,
probably after Red has given you a good telling off.

BTW I won't mention OUR Energetic places, and you won't find this forum has a thread titled,
                        "Hydroenergy strong symptoms of a scam"
Wake up and smell the coffee 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy6Q9J5gRT4&playnext=1&list=PL391FF5E9EB8C9A3C&feature=results_main