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Free Energy prize money

Started by PaulLowrance, April 09, 2005, 11:44:18 AM

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profitis

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Again, if you are correct then there are billions of candidates who can prove this in an absolute and utterly unambiguous way from which there is no reasonable doubt.   The expectation is: We should see unambiguous published proofs'

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We should?who's we?

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We don't.

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We don't? How many viewers saw hardcastles thread so far?

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Your counter argument:  Each and every one of the billions of people are actively looking out for the stock market instead of wanting a reasonable chance at money equivalent to them working at least twenty-two years. (OECD avg annual salary is around 1/22nd of $1M USD).  Even in countries like Cambodia where the GDP is less than $1M where about 1 in 2 children are chronically undernourished.  Of the 10 Million adults there every single one of them cares more about the stock market than watching children starve?

The likelihood of that is next to nothing.'

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Next to nothing? Show me the evidence please proving that cambodian peasantry will cease to exist by copying my work.

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Also don't you find it interesting that you are now making up excuses for not making money with your idea.  I've offered you two-thousand dollars.  I could probably even go up from there if I was motivated.  All you have to do is get your article published in a journal with a SJR rank greater than 1.8 and fail to win a Nobel prize in two years.   Again you said your evidence is absolutely perfect.  Right.  No possible reasonable doubt but it's all excuses now. LOL!I'm a loser.'

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Lol I've got plenty other ways to make money from my shit mr sarkeizen but let's say I made a decision to publish in an elite journal,how would I go about this? Would I have to join a university team or is it possible to throw it in email form to some random internet 1.8 journal? Are there such journals available for public submissions from a home compuder?

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on December 19, 2014, 11:38:02 AM
'We should?who's we?
By "we" I mean "It should be reasonably easily observable."
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We don't? How many viewers saw hardcastles thread so far?
Nobody needs to see hardcastles thread.  This is simply OU.  You have stated many times that your conclusions are obvious from any elementary chemistry textbook.  Remember anyone with access to an elementary chemistry textbook can come to the same conclusions EASILY.   They can validate it a way where there is no reasonable doubt EASILY.

However despite all this opportunity.  No published work clearly validating OU.  This is a likely outcome of your assertions.  Hence your assumptions much not be correct.  It's Bayes rule.   Sorry.
QuoteNext to nothing?
Yep.
QuoteLol I've got plenty other ways to make money from my shit mr sarkeizen
Sure you can dupe people like any con artist.  However to make money in any legitimate way.  i.e. Making a real product that actually provides OU in an unambiguous way.  Then no.  You don't. :)
Quotelet's say I made a decision to publish in an elite journal,how would I go about this? Would I have to join a university team or is it possible to throw it in email form to some random internet 1.8 journal? Are there such journals available for public submissions from a home compuder?
Elite journal?! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.  Did you think that's what I was asking?  You are really THAT ignorant?  "Nature" is an elite journal. It's SJR ranking is over 30!  I'm asking for you to get published in a journal with a rank FIFTEEN TIMES LOWER!  Hah! lol! *whew* Ok...but to answer your question:  Every journal is different please read submission guidelines for yourself.  Many these days accept electronic submission.

profitis

 quote from sarkeizen:'
By "we" I mean "It should be reasonably easily observable."

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To electrochemists yes.I'm not sure what percentage of the population knows what the 2lot is but I'm guessing its minuscule.

quote from sarkeizen:'
Nobody needs to see hardcastles thread.  This is simply OU.  You have stated many times that your conclusions are obvious from any elementary chemistry textbook.  Remember anyone with access to an elementary chemistry textbook can come to the same conclusions EASILY.   They can validate it a way where there is no reasonable doubt EASILY.'

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Absolutely correct,for those that totaly understand what they are reading and for those that aren't fanaticly devoted to  kelvins statement in the beginning of those same textbooks.at the very least they should see the contradictory discrepency

Quote from sarkeizen:'
However despite all this opportunity.  No published work clearly validating OU.  This is a likely outcome of your assertions.  Hence your assumptions much not be correct.  It's Bayes rule.   Sorry.'
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Bayes rule cannot predict what humans feel like doing or thinking after realizing they are staring ou in the face.

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Sure you can dupe people like any con artist.  However to make money in any legitimate way.  i.e. Making a real product that actually provides OU in an unambiguous way.  Then no.  You don't. :)'
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Glad YOU think so,wink-wink (:(:(:

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Elite journal?! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.  Did you think that's what I was asking?  You are really THAT ignorant?  "Nature" is an elite journal. It's SJR ranking is over 30!  I'm asking for you to get published in a journal with a rank FIFTEEN TIMES LOWER!  Hah! lol! *whew* Ok...but to answer your question:  Every journal is different please read submission guidelines for yourself.  Many these days accept electronic submission.'

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Whoooooaaaarrr!! Who are you @sarkeizen?got some inside info?007 shit? From a kaka-journal to a nobel prize?I might just do it anyways in order to secure my place in history mmmmm yeah.

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on December 19, 2014, 01:07:54 PM
Absolutely correct,for those that totally understand
Nope, they don't need to unless you exaggerated about the ease with which it could be validated.  You said a child could validate.  You made all your claims about absolute perfect proof from a high-school textbook.  This is still an enormously massive group of potential validators.
QuoteBayes rule cannot predict what humans feel like doing or thinking
Doesn't have to.  It just has to say what is the likely outcome.  Sure there can be billions of people who are capable of validating OU in a completely unambiguous way and maybe they all just up and decide that they don't want to upset the stock market.  Bayes rule simply says it's terribly unlikely.   The more (if not most) likely scenario is that your assertion about ease or your assertions about OU are simply incorrect. :)  Sorry.
QuoteI might just do it anyways in order to secure my place in history mmmmm yeah.
Don't worry you won't do it. :)

profitis

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'Nope, they don't need to unless you exaggerated about the ease with which it could be validated.  You said a child could validate.  You made all your claims about absolute perfect proof from a high-school textbook.  This is still an enormously massive group of potential validators.

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Majority of people,including children are not interested in validating things they don't know about or have no interest in

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'Doesn't have to.  It just has to say what is the likely outcome.  Sure there can be billions of people who are capable of validating OU in a completely unambiguous way and maybe they all just up and decide that they don't want to upset the stock market.  Bayes rule simply says it's terribly unlikely.   The more (if not most) likely scenario is that your assertion about ease or your assertions about OU are simply incorrect. :)  Sorry.'

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Most people do not know what ou is and therefore have no interest in it.

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'Don't worry you won't do it. :)'

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Now this deserves a thread all on its own titled:'will they ever give a noble for ou'.what's in it for society to give a noble for ou @sarkeizen? How does this benefit society? Maybe they can shove an award in the contenders hand in such a way as to prevent a general panick eg 'this award is for his research on the limitations of the 2lot or this award is for his research in thermodynamics or some other veiled phrase as opposed to,'this award is for fucking the laws of physics inside-out?' You still haven't told me why you are so sure that such a noble will be awarded for a genuine ou?