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Free Energy prize money

Started by PaulLowrance, April 09, 2005, 11:44:18 AM

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Quote from: vonhen on November 26, 2014, 06:35:26 PM

It's not a machine it's a process. If this is for real then contact me at vonhen@yahoo.com. I'll need an NDA and a lot of other insurance to be able to move forward.

The first day vonhen posted I PM him and asked to send me the NDA. However,  I used an old email address to see what I would receive.
Have a look at the attache. This came in the IN box (not spam box) and is the only thing I received.
I do know this is not from Yahoo and I obviously I did not click the link.

Luc

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Quote from: TinselKoala on November 26, 2014, 11:36:43 AM
Do you have some problem with reading comprehension? This website is supposed to be an OPEN SOURCE place for discussion and development of ideas, not some place for secrecy, NDAs and stuff like that. 
Maybe because you haven't been paying attention. There are many such organizations and individuals, although your silly characterization of them as "inept-at-inventing superheroes" is an obvious flail. Even Stefan our host has offered a prize for real evidence of OU, and I can think of six more without even straining or Googling. Show me a device that passes my own tests and I can arrange introductions to two organizations that are capable, reliable, offer fully lawyered-up intellectual property protection to the inventor and even substantial support just for good ideas, much less working models, and if a working model should show up, nearly unlimited funding from that point on.  Maybe they were too smart to be taken in by the obvious conman Bessler. Tesla got plenty of financial support but was struggling against greedy people who wanted to profit from his work, keep it secret, and so on. He also wasn't a particularly good businessman. Speculations about "His plan to give free energy" when no such plan existed is kind of silly, don't you think?
I don't need to explain anything to you, other than the fact that you don't seem to respect the stated goals of THIS website.


LOL! (Laughing Out Loud!)

ROFL! (Rolling On the Floor Laughing!)

LMA! (Laughing My Ass Off!)

Tink, I asked you QUESTIONS. Do you suffer a severe comprehension problem in which you do not know the difference between a QUESTION and a STATEMENT? Apparently YES.

I have made no argument against any goal of this site, but, in your delirium you have taken my innocent questions, refused to honestly answer them, and have dishonestly perverted them into delusional mis-statements.

You have given us undeniable grounds upon which to judge your (lack of) ability to honestly and fairly assess the righteous motives and honest communication presented to you.

By the way, you still have one more chance to give HONEST answers to my questions and comments.


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profitis

@tinselkoala,,,thanks man,you mentioned quite a few that I wasn't aware of despite my own searches(I do my own homework too btw) So are your doors open to karpen piles of say 1ma/cm2 in perpetual bursts to infinity ie can you make me rich with a prototype of sorts like this

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Quote from: TinselKoala on November 26, 2014, 08:33:44 PM
It's not a machine it's a process. If this is for real then contact me at vonhen@yahoo.com. I'll need an NDA and a lot of other insurance to be able to move forward. I have no problem proving how this works and does not violate the laws of physics. One of the government's top reviewers has already reviewed the white paper and agrees that what a say is true. So now it's just a matter of getting paid and if you can do that I'll make you richer than Bill Gates.


Sorry, that's not how it works. Did you not read the post of mine that you quote? YOU convince ME first that I'm not going to embarrass myself by hooking you up, then I give you an introduction to the principals, with my endorsement, which actually counts for something. THEN, I am out of the picture, you and they can NDA yourselves silly. Or you can just contact any of the people or agencies I listed above yourself. If you want me to sign any NDA, then you are hiring me and you will of course pay me my regular daily consulting fee for my examination of your claims. I am not an amateur.

This forum is an OPEN SOURCE forum and anything we talk about here is NOT SECRET, and here I work for free, or rather at my own expense. Of course I accept certain donations, no-strings-attached, and I have also sent people things I've built, for free, no strings attached. OPEN SOURCE.

And I think that what most people mean by "overunity" and "Free Energy" _does_ violate known laws of physics, such as 2LoT or Conservation of Momentum or such, so when you say your process doesn't, I am immediately thinking that you aren't really conforming to the usual definitions of those terms. For example, some kind of tidal power generator might be "free" in terms of the cost of the energy extracted from tides or ocean waves, and it doesn't violate known physical laws, but it also isn't "overunity" or "free energy" in the sense that this forum and most of the people here actually mean. However it still might qualify for one or two of the prizes and awards I listed above.


Tink, you seem to be totally unaware that Patent System is intrinsically Open Source. Explain it to you? I have limited patience, and, you obviously have limited comprehension. OK, I will try.

The principle of the Patent System is that the inventor, in his APPLICATION, fully explains and spills his guts, about his lovely invention. Supposedly perfectly Open Source, supposedly no secret sauce recipe held back. Are you keeping up OK?

In the Patent System there is a 20 year time delay before anybody and everybody can freely use the invention concept to any end they wish. But after those 20 years anybody and everybody can do absolutely anything they feel like trying to do with the invention. 20 years. Only 20 little years.

It has been a 100 years and we still don't enjoy the benefits of the Tesla free energy concepts. Most of the concepts were patented, and, most of them were published (if you are industrious enough to look).

So what difference does it make if an inventor chooses to patent, or, chooses to publish and give away immediately via "OPEN SOURCE"?

Why are you or anybody else so knee-jerk frantic about an inventor giving it away per se?


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Quote from: TinselKoala on November 26, 2014, 08:33:44 PM
It's not a machine it's a process. If this is for real then contact me at vonhen@yahoo.com. I'll need an NDA and a lot of other insurance to be able to move forward. I have no problem proving how this works and does not violate the laws of physics. One of the government's top reviewers has already reviewed the white paper and agrees that what a say is true. So now it's just a matter of getting paid and if you can do that I'll make you richer than Bill Gates.


Sorry, that's not how it works. Did you not read the post of mine that you quote? YOU convince ME first that I'm not going to embarrass myself by hooking you up, then I give you an introduction to the principals, with my endorsement, which actually counts for something. THEN, I am out of the picture, you and they can NDA yourselves silly. Or you can just contact any of the people or agencies I listed above yourself. If you want me to sign any NDA, then you are hiring me and you will of course pay me my regular daily consulting fee for my examination of your claims. I am not an amateur.

This forum is an OPEN SOURCE forum and anything we talk about here is NOT SECRET, and here I work for free, or rather at my own expense. Of course I accept certain donations, no-strings-attached, and I have also sent people things I've built, for free, no strings attached. OPEN SOURCE.

And I think that what most people mean by "overunity" and "Free Energy" _does_ violate known laws of physics, such as 2LoT or Conservation of Momentum or such, so when you say your process doesn't, I am immediately thinking that you aren't really conforming to the usual definitions of those terms. For example, some kind of tidal power generator might be "free" in terms of the cost of the energy extracted from tides or ocean waves, and it doesn't violate known physical laws, but it also isn't "overunity" or "free energy" in the sense that this forum and most of the people here actually mean. However it still might qualify for one or two of the prizes and awards I listed above.


QuoteSorry, that's not how it works. Did you not read the post of mine that you quote? YOU convince ME first that I'm not going to embarrass myself by hooking you up, then I give you an introduction to the principals, with my endorsement, which actually counts for something. THEN, I am out of the picture, you and they can NDA yourselves silly. Or you can just contact any of the people or agencies I listed above yourself. If you want me to sign any NDA, then you are hiring me and you will of course pay me my regular daily consulting fee for my examination of your claims. I am not an amateur.

Tink, do you realize that you sound exactly like a pimp hustling his ho's?

Suppose, purely hypothetically, that I am so smart that I have wigged out how to really do Overunity Free Energy. But, then, you guess (and hope) that I am simultaneously so dumb that I need a pimp (like you ?) to make my case to The Man and get my party started?

Sorry, Charlie, if I'm smart enough to figure out how to do Overunity Free Energy, I also smart enough to figure out that I don't need to hook up with a con-artist pimp. The product will sell itself. The problem is not getting a pimp, I'm not sayin' you are not attractive, but, I'm sayin' that somebody like you is completely unnecessary if I really do know how to do OU.


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