Free Energy prize money

[TinselKoala]

@CANGAS.... are you sure you are able to read? I gave you answers to your "questions" which really weren't honest questions at all.

http://www.overunity.com/106/free-energy-prize-money/msg424774/#msg424774

I'm sayin' that somebody like you is completely unnecessary if I really do know how to do OU.

At last... you finally got something right. Neither is this forum necessary if anyone really knows how to do OU. So what are all those claimants doing here, then? What is someone doing HERE, asking ME, or any of us, to sign an NDA for his "proven" process, or wanting to bet me that his "overunity" sphere magnet spinner is actually OU? Why haven't they gone directly to any of the organizations or individuals that I HAD TO POINT OUT? 

Can you answer me that, CANASS?

Ooops, a typo.  Maybe I should get some of my "hos" to proofread what I write. They have better comprehension skills than you do, and they are more polite as well.


You call me a "pimp" but you can't explain how it is that this "pimp" is willing to bend over backwards and place his reputation and credibility on the line with some very wealthy people, for nothing in return except whatever _those people_ , not the claimants, may toss me in reward-- if anything. What exactly have YOU done, other than insult people? What CAN you offer, yourself, in aid of those claimants who might think they have something but don't know the people I know?

Suppose, purely hypothetically, that I am so smart that I have wigged out how to really do Overunity Free Energy. But, then, you guess (and hope) that I am simultaneously so dumb that I need a pimp (like you ?) to make my case to The Man and get my party started?

Hey, you are the one who mentioned Bessler as if you believed he had something. Do the math.

So what difference does it make if an inventor chooses to patent, or, chooses to publish and give away immediately via "OPEN SOURCE"?

Why are you or anybody else so knee-jerk frantic about an inventor giving it away per se?

I see you like strawman arguments in addition to your skilful use of the ad-hominem abuse. THIS WEBSITE IS AN OPEN SOURCE FORUM. Check the top page, look up the terms. If someone wants secrecy or some kind of IP protection.... what are they doing HERE?
I have no problem with people keeping secrets, or patenting, or whatever. This is supposed to be an open source forum; I have issues with people who talk secret, want people here to sign NDAs before they "reveal" anything, etc. OPEN SOURCE. Look it up.

[profitis]

@cangas do you think its even worth patenting an overunity device as opposed to just dumping into markets and riding the waves with trade secrets.I guess the question really is this,can anyone really benefit from a patent in this day and age of mass theft and espionage,I'm wondering if even a giant corporation can actually benefit from a patent nowadays for longer than  one or two years before altered ripoffs appear on the streets eg.the whole music industry piracy thing

[profitis]

To give an idea of the pressure to keep ahead with patents look how the pharmaceutical companies re-arrange a molecule or two every 6months on new drugs just in order to stay ahead of competitors.this is one example of how the need to be 'exclusive' can be dangerous to the public. re-arranging such drugs can have drasticly different effects from one person to the next.

[CANGAS]

@CANGAS.... are you sure you are able to read? I gave you answers to your "questions" which really weren't honest questions at all.

http://www.overunity.com/106/free-energy-prize-money/msg424774/#msg424774



At last... you finally got something right. Neither is this forum necessary if anyone really knows how to do OU. So what are all those claimants doing here, then? What is someone doing HERE, asking ME, or any of us, to sign an NDA for his "proven" process, or wanting to bet me that his "overunity" sphere magnet spinner is actually OU? Why haven't they gone directly to any of the organizations or individuals that I HAD TO POINT OUT? 

Can you answer me that, CANASS?

Ooops, a typo.  Maybe I should get some of my "hos" to proofread what I write. They have better comprehension skills than you do, and they are more polite as well.


You call me a "pimp" but you can't explain how it is that this "pimp" is willing to bend over backwards and place his reputation and credibility on the line with some very wealthy people, for nothing in return except whatever _those people_ , not the claimants, may toss me in reward-- if anything. What exactly have YOU done, other than insult people? What CAN you offer, yourself, in aid of those claimants who might think they have something but don't know the people I know?

Hey, you are the one who mentioned Bessler as if you believed he had something. Do the math.


I see you like strawman arguments in addition to your skilful use of the ad-hominem abuse. THIS WEBSITE IS AN OPEN SOURCE FORUM. Check the top page, look up the terms. If someone wants secrecy or some kind of IP protection.... what are they doing HERE?
I have no problem with people keeping secrets, or patenting, or whatever. This is supposed to be an open source forum; I have issues with people who talk secret, want people here to sign NDAs before they "reveal" anything, etc. OPEN SOURCE. Look it up.

At last... you finally got something right. Neither is this forum necessary if anyone really knows how to do OU. So what are all those claimants doing here, then? What is someone doing HERE, asking ME, or any of us, to sign an NDA for his "proven" process, or wanting to bet me that his "overunity" sphere magnet spinner is actually OU? Why haven't they gone directly to any of the organizations or individuals that I HAD TO POINT OUT? 

Tink, you are really a case. I can barely figure out what your posts mean, or, what your intentions are, because you are the poster child for scatter brain miscommunication syndrome.

What the Hell are you talking about "those claimants" for in connection with me? In your delusional state do you envision that all of your detractors are in a conspiracy just for the one purpose of destroying your personal hubris? Not so. I know little about you in particular and care less. I happen to have a differing opinion than you about the best way to use some superlative invention for the quickest benefit for all of humanity, STARTING WITH THOSE WHO URGENTLY NEED THE MOST HELP FIRST. 

CANGAS is not asking you or anybody to sign an NDA or anything else. In which of your deleriums did you get that?

CANGAS has not needed you to point out anything. CANGAS has already figured out what to do and who to contact (and, pretty much, who to NOT contact) when and if an inventor discovers a genuine OU Free Energy device or process.

At last... you finally got something right. Neither is this forum necessary if anyone really knows how to do OU. So what are all those claimants doing here, then? What is someone doing HERE, asking ME, or any of us, to sign an NDA for his "proven" process, or wanting to bet me that his "overunity" sphere magnet spinner is actually OU? Why haven't they gone directly to any of the organizations or individuals that I HAD TO POINT OUT? 

Oh, silly Tink. How long will somebody like me continue to tolerate your type of silliness?

A genuine OU Free Energy device will possibly be so simple and easy to understand that the nexus could be applied to 20 or 30 or more devices based on purely mechanical principles. Not being an electronics guru, I cannot guess, how many variations on a theme the Tesla concepts can generate. Would it be fair to guess 20 or 30 or more?

The majority of humanity is dog-eat-dog sinful and selfish. An lucky inventor who has primarily altruistic intentions is a lamb surrounded by hungry wolves. The lucky inventor must be the watch-man who sizes up his adversary before making his move to try to make his shot. The lucky inventor must keep up with any outburst uttered by any silly tinkerer who may have had a lucky dream in which the silly imagined that if the widget was shaped just right and moved in just the right way, then it might do OU. The true lucky inventor must patiently wait and watch to see if some silly may have dreamed of something that might work and has blabbed it. The true lucky inventor cannot take the chance that some silly might trump by blabbing prior art before the right time to publish a genuine OU device.

A genuine OU device will do colossal disruption to the Energy Establishment and the financial stability of the global economy. It will get much worse before it then gets much, much, better. A righteous and conscientious true lucky inventor is duty-bound to try to time his announcement for the right time to do the least harm before it then will do the most good.

That, silly, silly Tink, is why an inventor who hopes to discover true OU Free Energy (or may have already done so) scouts out this site even if he has figured out that his best plan is to patent rather than blatantly give it away on the front end.


Happiest Regards
CANGAS 104



   

[vonhen]

To all that will listen, there is no such thing as perpetual motion machines. The word motion applies heat. The laws of thermo dynamics takes over. There is always an energy lost. There is no physical science to support the notion that a machine can create more energy than is supplied. Without physical science that support it, it does not work.  There is no such thing as perpetual motion but the Physical science support nay decrees that a close loop energy transfer process works. The laws that govern this are over 300 years old and we see the practical applications of these laws are use every day. Everyone has seen these application their entire lives.
a close loop energy transfer process is only quantum physical laws. That always works. Where ever you are on this planet nay in this universe it will work. There is nothing to Patten. It is just quantum physics. The process has been used every day for the last 100 years. Anyone could go to their local hardware store and pick up the parts and in lest then 1 hour put together a free close loop energy transfer system.
If anyone out there is still interested in a free close loop energy transfer system, know that there is no money in it. The systems need to put one together have been manufacture for the last 100 years. So this is the dilemma that I find myself in. There is no way I can get paid. I have the quantum physical laws that prove the existence of a close loop energy transfer system but all I get is to be known as the person who came up with it .Right now that's not enough for me to give it to the world. To everybody that has put up prize money for a perpetual motion machine, you money is save. There is only one way free energy works , through the laws of physics and I have those laws. If someone wants the world to have this contact me and let me know what is worth to you. Yes I have the quantum physical laws and the U S government knows it, so I will get credit for being the person who figured laws out but I want more.