More efficient wind mill??

[Dr]

I was researching wind energy a short while back and came across a radical design by the French back in the 1800s. It was called the Panemone, it rotated on a verticle axis, and had 30 verticle vanes or sails! I must admit it looked impressive! has anyone here ever heard of this wind mill?

[nightlife]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panemone#Efficiency

The panemone is one of the least efficient types of wind turbine.

[Dr]

After looking at the web site you posted, I saw nothing close to what I saw in a book in the library. The Pane mone I saw Had vanes 2 meters high and about15" wide and there were 30 of them. The total dia. appeared to be about 30 feet. It was mounted about 20 ft. off the ground. Less efficient I think not!

[Thaelin]

   If you dont mind the howl a bit, I have two F&P motors and both do a fine job of generating power. One is wound with #18 and makes good amps. They are common now in washing machines too. Even if you have to rewind them, a deal.

thay

[lancaIV]

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buch-der-synergie.de%2Fc_neu_html%2Fc_08_08_02_savonius.htm
                                                                      Wind Pillar
"Under suitable wind conditions ,the 500 W system generates  around 4500 KWh of electricity per year,  ....."
        1 year = 8766 hours a 0,5 KW = 4388 KWh 
       Better engineering not possible. !  perpetuum overunity wind engine( under suitable condition)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.espv-tec.de%2Fpid_10028%2F
It seems they do not anymore market wind systems. !