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Wireless power transmission using Joule Thief

Started by Positron360, May 04, 2011, 08:57:36 AM

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synchro1

Sohei's latest. The "light Ring Video":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzyp1WTP_P0&feature=plcp

Sohei's adding consecutive LED oscillating reciever coils with no increase in input, when facing counter wound. The last one has two LED'S, and still no rise in input. He introduces a light ring with 6 LED'S. He calls his bifilar reciever coil wraps JT. Everyone knows how they're connected. I'm thrilled to have heard back from Sohei when asked by me if his black proto ring of 6 LED's in series caused a rise in input. Awesome Earth shattering response!

  Sohei Thoth has replied to your youtube comment on the Light Ring :

"I am fascinated by this effect. As in this black ring proto, I can put as many rings in the right position on top or bellow. No more drain from batt".

One additional rejoinder from Sohei:

"Just a correction.... when I say "as many" I just wanted to say that you can put few rings on the right position... I did not tried so many rings.... hehehe Regards".

TinselKoala

Sigh.

@Synchro:
Sohei Thoth is doing good work... with LEDs. Where is the "high voltage" though? That's what I meant when I challenged the statement "bifilar high voltage".  And I'm still not sure from _his_ description that he is using a Tesla bifilar winding. Isn't he using a twisted pair in there? I don't remember seeing anything about twisted pairs in Tesla's patent. Nevertheless I too have used bifilar windings made with twisted pair.

Let's not distract from the good work he's doing, though, by arguing about how wrong you are, Synchro. 

Here is a photo, attached below, of a _real_ wireless JT of another style. It is _powered wirelessly_ by my wireless power transmitter. The transmitter is running on 12 volts. The _wireless JT_ is lighting up Four NE-2 90 volt neons _in series_ .  That means its output exceeds 360 volts and at sufficient current to light those neons brilliantly.

As I said earlier, I too can add receivers with more lights and not raise the power consumption of the transmitter. In fact if I do it properly the transmitter current goes down, just as Sohei is describing. The difference is that my system operates at longer ranges and can be used to power anything that takes 2-24 VDC input... like incandescent filament bulbs and motors. Earthshattering? Groundbreaking?

The fact that Sohei didn't notice any difference when he tried adding caps does not "prove that you are right" at all, neither does it "prove that I am wrong". All it proves is that he didn't need to add capacitance, or that he added the wrong amount. This can be because his coils are the right length to begin with. And other reasons as well.

Here's a couple of videos that should show you that I might understand a little bit of what I'm talking about. Note the dates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxabhjHoV50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqMWHhkdQMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBUfaYi02WI

Always willing to learn more, too, from those who have something to teach.


And I'm posting an image of the simple Wireless Receiver Circuit with DC output here for the benefit of a friend of mine who asked about it. It might be useful to others too.

OK, that's enough for my argument with Synchro.


Carry on, Sohei, you are doing good work. Please interpret it carefully and with full knowledge and research.



synchro1

@TinselKoala,

                  I've been over your kind of "know it all" malarky more then once about the authenticity of Tesla bifilars on this forum. You're relentless. I can't believe that you would want to carry on about those inane points you keep making about something so simple. That diagram I posted you call a true Tesla coil states clearly that the "C" factor or self inductance is zero. You contradict this fact and go on to say I'm wrong, and that connecting the wires the other way produces the null inductance. Go back and read the fine print; Also, the voltage between the wraps is 500 times HIGHER then between the wraps on a single wire solenoid coil. This voltage differential is a result of connecting the different far wire ends the way shown in the diagram and has nothing to do with output. You can connect the different near ends and get the greater potential. The different near ends don't generate the Hi-Voltage differential compared to the single wire. I have to ask myself if you're some sort of Gadfly or if you're just too thick to understand these two basic points you continue to insist I'm wrong about. I find it very tedious to keep rehashing these very simple and elementary issues.

                Sohei Thoth, a Newbie obviously has English for a second language judging from his videos. He calls his coils "JT" for Joule Thief. The Joule Thief is a bifilar with the different far ends connected. The different far end connected bifilar generates the 500X greater voltage compared to a single wire coil of the same Ohmic resistance or wire length and gauge. That's why the "Hi-Voltage" term is used to distinguish it from the different near ends "hairpin" connection alternative, and has nothing to do with output. You want to argue that a lash wraped bifilar is not a true Tesla coil when all that matters is that we designate the correct two ends of the the wires to be connected. The term Hi-Voltage indicates the different wire far ends! Please stop confusing people so you can show off as some kind of "Know it all". While I'm at it I would like to add that I find your videos to be boring and insipid, like the four solid minutes of you threading a ferrite ring with a prewound spindle. Flowers failed to deliver to any fixed address!

                 Colonel Bearden stated that we could light New York City off a penlight battery if we just don't kill the di-pole. Sohei demonstrates no rise in input with six LED'S in series off his JT connected bifilar wireless reciever coil, counter wound facing primary. Six or perhaps six trillion LED'S as Bearden theorizes?

Pirate88179

I think I was able to remove the double posts.  (One of each) At least, it looks that way from my end.

If not, let me know and I will try again.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

synchro1

@Pirate88179,

          The double posts have vanished! Thank you very much.