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[evolvingape]

Hi Everyone,

Yes this has become a very productive thread

HHO is still a potential solution in my opinion but Mr Goose is correct, at current levels of efficiency it is a poor option for self sufficiency. However, that was the entire point of the Hydro Electro Lytic Turbine technologies, a new direction that may one day improve those efficiencies to a level that becomes viable.

Plasma is very interesting and is the fourth state of matter. Plasma, Gas, Liquid, Solid. It is important to remember that all four of those are fluids in different energetic states. This is why I have labored the point about understanding fluid dynamics and attempted to bring the subject to you in a practical format you can pursue.

The Scramjet is a perfect example of the same principles applied in a new application, and HELIS will allow you to play with Plasma production while at the same time adhering to the principles of fluid dynamics and the relationship between pressure and velocity, which is key in manipulating energy states.

I am glad you like the little chipper Mr Goose, your right it does offer the opportunity to create fuel and sell the surplus. Here is an ebay seller of bulk wood chips:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WOODCHIP-mulch-bark-wood-chip-paths-allotments-gardens-/250812841337?pt=UK_H_G_Garden_Plants_Landscaping_Garden_Materials_ET&hash=item3a659c3d79

With fuel cost at zero you only have maintenance cost of the machine and the cost in collecting the branches, as long as you have a ready supply of course.

We can also take this idea one step further, remember the buggy I told you about ? Well you can buy these new or off ebay secondhand with an ICE and everything else already installed. If you were to mount a gasifier at the rear and seal the cockpit you would be able to power it from wood chips.

If you were to take the chipping unit off the garden chipper and mount that so that it can be run from the engine you would be able to process the fuel on the vehicle, effectively giving you unlimited range. This would be simple to do as with the gearbox in neutral the engine can still be revved and the shaft still turns, it is just no longer transmitting drive to the gearbox.

If you were to mount a simple pulley to the engine output shaft in addition to the gearbox connection then you could connect the chipping unit via a belt whenever you wanted to make more fuel. As long as you carried some woodchips for the purpose of making more, same principle as carrying a jerrycan full of fuel for emergencies, you would become self sufficient barring mechanical failure of the equipment.

Pretty easy stuff really, any engine mechanic could do this with his eyes shut. The other alternative, if the engine configuration makes it too difficult to mount a secondary pulley would be to carry a jack and axle stands (fit to body not axle!) and lift the drive wheels off the floor, you could then run the chipper unit from the drive wheels shaft using a pulley and belt. Lot's and lot's of options here people!

RM

[ElectricGoose]

GEK open source Gasifier for use with most engines.  Conversion a simple reality.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Convert-your-Honda-Accord-to-run-on-trash/

Understand how to use plasma and you shrink the whole unit.

[evolvingape]

Hello Everyone,

Here is the Everyman Gasifier Unit.

It can be constructed from 316 Stainless Steel 150lb class pipe fittings and simply screws together.

As a general rule of thumb use BSPP for FEMALE and BSPT for MALE. This will form a seal without sealant. However if a seal is required use clay on the threads and the outside of the fittings which will become a custom ceramic seal when “cooked”.

The custom 2” pipe nipple must be threaded manually to fit the double inverted 4” to 2” reducing sockets.

I have not added the filter unit or valves to control gas flow to engine manifold because I do not have the energy tonight. The unit appears sealed at the top but is not, this is a section view remember

This is so simple I do not even need to describe it. It is a little pricey compared to scrap parts, but when you consider it will last forever, can be easily dismantled for maintenance, screws together, and is size customiseable then the benefits outweigh the initial setup costs.

The fuel hopper height is customiseable depending on your fuel tank size preference and the size of your wallet.

This is about as simple as it gets without requiring any special skills.

Some resources:

http://zx55.com/default.asp

http://zx55.com/shopexd.asp?id=2295

http://zx55.com/shopexd.asp?id=2476

http://zx55.com/shopexd.asp?id=2237

http://zx55.com/shopexd.asp?id=5053

http://www.tapdie.com/html/bspipe__dies.html

RM

[evolvingape]

Hello Everyone,

I have had a little sleep now and the brain is working again so I have put up the EGU Mk2 for you. The Mk1 was for stationary application with a manual shaker handle and grate. The Mk2 is for vehicle mounting and will act in the same way as a HHO Generator and supplement the gasoline.

The Mk2 has been shrunk. This is based around 1/2” and 2” BSP pipe and fittings. I have done this for two reasons. 2” BSP Pipe fittings are commonly used by the plumbing industry and can be sourced reliably and the cost is lower. The other reason is that the unit should now be small enough to mount in the engine bay in a vertical position.

I have now used 2” extended barrel nipples which can be got off the shelf in 6” lengths at a very good price. You can now extend the size of the fuel hopper by 6” a time using just one of these and a parallel socket:

http://www.zx55.com/shopexd.asp?id=2202

http://www.zx55.com/shopexd.asp?id=2249 (No picture but it looks like this)

http://www.colglo.co.uk/productlistallinone.php?category=218510401814

Hexagon sockets are better as you can get a wrench on them, the smooth round ones need adjustable plumbing pliers for gripping pipe (which every engineer should have anyway as they are awesome!)

Scroll to the bottom of the page and there is a pdf with dimensions. Very handy. Some of the links on some pages are broken but contact them if there is one missing that you need.

The EGU is also modular which means multiple units can be put together to form one large unit. For example, 4off Mk2 units all connect to the filter manifold and the combined product of the gas produced exits through one outlet to the engine manifold.

This has advantages because where we would be creating one large amount of gas in a large gasifier, we are now creating multiple smaller amounts of gas and combining them just before injection to the engine.

This also means that the fuel consumption rate should be the same so you will not have to refill the fuel hopper any more than you would with the larger one.

A point to note is that a large gasifier unit like the one mounted on the Honda Civic can probably handle 2” square wood chips as mentioned in the FEMA document. The Mk2 having a S40S 1/2” BSP pipe 16mm diameter internal bore fire tube will need smaller wood chips. This adds to the pre-processing of the wood chips as you will need to separate the small chips from the large using a sizing grate. However, the large chips that remain get dumped back through the chipper so not a great addition to the labour required, especially considering the advantage gained in smaller size of the unit.

Now, it will be possible to mount multiple Mk2 EGU's inside a stainless steel box with an airtight tongue and groove lid seal. The box itself will be mounted inside your boot out of sight. The box will have two vents to the outside of the car probably through the bottom of the boot, one intake vent and one outtake vent to allow fresh air to circulate.

If you were to separate the box into two sections with two separate EGU modules then you could run the car off one module until the fuel is depleted. Then start the second module and run that until the fuel is depleted. By the time the second module's fuel is exhausted the first module will have cooled enough for you to refill the individual Mk2 fuel hoppers. This process then continues allowing you to keep driving forever until the fuel carried on board runs out, then it's time to pull over, find some branches and make some more.

I am not going to put up a design for this, just an outline of the idea. The reason for this is gasifiers produce carbon monoxide. I do not want someone to install a boot EGU, do it wrong, and poison themselves and their family with carbon monoxide! So if you know what I am talking about here you probably know how to do it properly. Proceed at your own risk!!

This system will mean that you can run your car without gasoline but no one will know because from the outside your car looks perfectly normal. This will stop the police pulling you over when they see a big oil drum strapped to the back of your car!

As soon as lot's of people start doing this they will make it illegal and the MSM will be filled with the “dangers” of this technology and a lot of other bollocks as well probably. If you DO IT RIGHT it will be safe, and always carry a fire extinguisher in the vehicle.

The other point is they will claim that this is increasing CO2 pollution. This is wrong because the carbon you will be burning is already present in the material, which would rot and release the exact same amount of carbon into the atmosphere anyway. By burning it cleanly and efficiently you will actually probably decrease the amount going into the environment.

The other point is that oil is pumped from underground where the carbon is locked away from the environment. By burning it and releasing it you are actually increasing the amount of CO2 entering our world. The gasifier technology in contrast is carbon neutral for the reasons I have already outlined.

The other thing I want to talk about is the Mk2 in a different application. The GECV will allow you to use just a single unit to run a turbine. The Plasma Injector technology will allow you to create a plasma state of water, air or the woodgas itself. You have everything you need to explore multiple directions of this technology, and by using just a single Mk2 with different plasma potentials you can easily compare the efficiency of each potential.

I had a quick look for high temperature silicone and found this one good to 320C constant, 350C intermittent. This will be a better option than clay as it will remain flexible, while clay will go brittle over time and crack due to the vibration of the vehicle. Search around for other silicones and see if you can find a better one. This one has a NATO stock number though which tells you it is amongst the best

http://www.intek-uk.com/xts320.htm

Here are a few more resources:

http://www.zx55.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?tc=N&id=3&cat=Low%20Pressure%20Fittings&app=U-Bolt%20and%20Nuts

U bolts will allow you to securely mount your gasifier to a stainless backing plate in the vertical position. The description says ½” NB which means nominal bore. The description also says ½” NPS which means Nominal Pipe Schedule. These two descriptions are not the same!

1/2” NB actually means 0.5”

1/2” NPS actually means ½ Pipe which is 0.84” OD of the pipe.

Check with the supplier what you are actually getting before you buy it!

Here is the ½” pipe for the custom pipe nipple fire tube:

http://www.zx55.com/shopexd.asp?id=5033

I have already given you the link to tap&die for the ½” BSPP die and holder. You MUST use BSPP for the custom pipe nipple as this will allow you to cut a continuous parallel thread, and you need a double length thread for mounting the reducing sockets. Taper thread will not work for this purpose.

The missus is nagging me to go shopping so that's all for now folks!

RM

[ElectricGoose]

RM

Good work man.


Regards