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Alternate Fuel for Diesel and Gasoline Engines - 100% off the Bowser

Started by ElectricGoose, May 09, 2011, 08:42:38 PM

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ramset

RM
Which Plastic will you be Brewing?
Thanks
Chet
PS
Mr.Goose
Catalyst ??
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10722.0
I see many things in his Paper that look OH so familiar?
PPS
Who's "Bowser" And Why don't we like him??
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

evolvingape

Hi Chet,

I am not going to be brewing any plastic at all to start with. I am going to start with wood chips and make some Syngas :) Here's why:

http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy00osti/27983.pdf

In the section "How does the Gasifier Work ?" it says this:

"The Vermont project demonstrates a process called lowpressure, indirect gasification of biomass. The process mixes wood chips with very hot sand at a temperature of about 830°C, or 1500°F, in a steel tank called a gasifier. The hot sand breaks down the wood and, helped by added steam, causes the resulting carbon, hydrogen, and
oxygen to form into combustible gases. The gases and sand leave the gasifier and the gas is cleaned for use as fuel. (See diagram above.) This fuel burns cleanly with a heat content of about 500 Btu per cubic foot (about half the heat content of natural gas), which qualifies it as a medium-heat content gas. This gas can be used directly in unmodified gas turbines. However, McNeil burned the gas in its wood-fired boiler during the startup and evaluation periods."

Remember when I said the Linear Firing Valve was designed by me to utilise any amount of HHO produced ? Well, The GECV is an adaptation of the LFV and so will allow me to utilise any amount of Syngas produced.

I am working right now on a design for a mini turbine to go with the mini gasifier and I will hopefully put it up here for you later tonight. The GECV along with the Mk3 Injector (running in mechanical only mode because the fluid efficiency of the insert will be negatively impacted by pitting) will allow me to use a Syngas / Atomised Water / HHO from a Dry Cell mix to directly drive the mini turbine. Then I run a PMA from the output shaft using a pulley as a dry slip friction clutch to prevent the turbine stalling.

Once I have got it all running and tested and I will look at self looping the mini Gasifier and see if there is any Syngas left to run the mini turbine.

So quite a lot on my plate to take plastic on at the moment. Besides I think in order to utilise plastic effectively there will need to be a two stage process. A first processing stage in a large reactor like Jetijs is doing, that produces an oil fuel, that I can inject into the Reactor design of kelly kettle, because the liquid fuel will be easy to refill without taking the Reactor apart and is also a very dense form of energy storage that will produce a lot of gas volume for very little liquid volume.

I have not started on working out the plumbing fittings yet to tap the Syngas out of the bottom of the mini gasifier. And I still need to learn more about the Gasifiers in general as I am a newbie to all this.

So, the Syngas is doable for me as I already have a Kelly Kettle, and the turbine design is nearly finished. Seems a sensible place to start as has been pointed out my chemistry is not up to scratch for plastic... yet ;)

RM :)

ramset

RM
I just Like you More and more all the time!
Very cool Concept!
Thanks
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

evolvingape

Hi Everyone,

A new simplified Mini Turbine design for use with a Syngas Gasifier. The diagrams are pretty standard with a few important changes.

When I say Mini Turbine it will still be reasonably substantial, with a 9 to 10 Inch diameter disc stack, to maximise the time component for working fluid interaction.

Probably best to go with Ken Riely's Winglet design as this is proven as the highest performing boundary layer turbine currently known.

The Central Ring Housing Plates are quite radical in design and are cut from a thick plate of 316 Stainless Steel by Waterjet. This saves you having to source a ring of suitable material and dimensions. The thickness of the plate chosen must equal the sum of the clearances between the side plates and discs, the clearance between the discs, and the thickness of the discs.

Check what angle the Waterjet cuts at, if it is not zero degrees then there will be a slight taper to the ring that will be undesirable and impact efficiency. This can be removed by routing if you have that facility and make an exact template.

The part I have marked A on the Central Ring Housing Plates would normally be thrown away as scrap, however keep it. This should be drilled and reamed smooth through its length with the same diameter as the OD of the parallel flow tube pipe. The parallel flow tube is then hammered in interference fit with some high temperature Loctite or other sealant and then ground to the shape of the ring.

The part marked A is then welded into the Central Ring Housing Plates and the pipe can be threaded to mount the GECV. Be careful when welding as the part that touches the side plates either side must be milled perfectly flat. If you grind the weld flat it will not be even and will allow pressure to bleed. Mill it or do not weld it at all, at least then the side plates will still mount perfectly flush.

If you ask the Waterjet people to cut the ring separately first, and you ordered two sets then you will have 2 very heavy discs for prototyping another turbine at a future date (add any holes you will want to the design now or you will have to drill them later). Make sure you check with the programmer where he is going to start the cut as the jet will “cut in” to locate before beginning to cut the ring, you do not want this “cut in” on the ring itself or you will ruin your efficiency.

When the turbine is finally bolted together apply a ring of suitable sealant or ceramic paper might work as mentioned in the HHO PCT thread, but unknown at this time if it is effective and it might not handle water very well.

The part marked B is to make a suitable round hole for the rotor mount bolts and also to allow the exhaust fluid to escape. This would normally be thrown away as scrap also but keep it and add rotor mount bolt holes to the design (which must be cut first before the ring) and it becomes the deflection ring to protect your hub and bearings.

Not a single bit of any of the material is wasted so take it all home! :)

Before deciding if a 2 disc turbine is right for you read reply #10 in the link below and then factor in the difficulty of manufacture more discs in the stack and housing requires:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10274.0

Any questions just ask...

RM :)


evolvingape

OK...

I have had enough...

Time to stop fucking about...

Watch this:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-team/4od/player/2928283

Then read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_carbon

Then read this:

http://tu-dresden.de/die_tu_dresden/fakultaeten/fakultaet_maschinenwesen/iet/vws/Veroeffentlichungen/Beckmann_90-07/Be-70.pdf

Then read this:

http://www.ratical.org/renewables/hempseed1.html

Then watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI

Then read this:

http://phoenixtears.ca/

Then realise that you can make your own Syngas reactor out of clay in your back garden, that adds carbon content.

The fuel is Hemp waste and the Reactor itself, a ceramic.

You have grown the HIGH THC version and stripped the seeds to eat and keep you healthy.

http://www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk/

You have stripped the oil from the plant to cure your diseases.

http://current.com/news/89799784_marijuana-cuts-lung-cancer-tumor-growth-in-half-harvard-study-shows.htm

You have used the Biomass to make food to stop you going hungry.

You have stripped the fibres from the stalk to make every product that you currently get from oil.

The waste goes into your reactor to make fuel.

A perfect marriage of Iron age / Medieval technology to produce the fuel... and modern technology to utilise it efficiently.

You all getting the point ?

RM :)

And remember this:

Your enemy wears your face, wears your clothes, speaks your language. You identify them by their actions. If they attempt to deprive you of your universal given right to life by deception, coercion or force. They have no rights.

We are all terminal...

Act accordingly...

RM :)