Muller Dynamo for experimentalists

[Hoppy]

You are right it is very low power but its a principle issue for now to give some clues towards tuning the rig.  Forget the i/p power for now its really not important. That can be dealt with later. eg collect the driver coils BEMF and send that off to the dump cap might find an extra watts or two.

For now take  the drive up to 1500 rpm then retune the generator coil its still not tuned correctly more "sniffing" the power.  When its correctly matched the volts will be a LOT higher out to a dump cap and the waveforms very symmetrical.

Hi Bolt,

What are we aiming for in terms of output power? with a 1R load and all coils in circuit, we would need to maintain around 2.45V across the load to match the input power and that's assuming that the input power does not increase as the coils are added. With a 20R load we would need to maintain 11V. I sense we will be chasing tails here to get anywhere close to unity.

Hoppy

[bolt]

Hi Bolt,

What are we aiming for in terms of output power? with a 1R load and all coils in circuit, we would need to maintain around 2.45V across the load to match the input power and that's assuming that the input power does not increase as the coils are added. With a 20R load we would need to maintain 11V. I sense we will be chasing tails here to get anywhere close to unity.

Hoppy

I think you are worrying too much about amps and watts.  When the system is tuned it all be working in reactive power the dump cap charge very fast to a higher voltage. This is because the cap will charge on the pure voltage node points from each generator coil while the current is at the zero node so the cap is hit with standing wave. What happens in the dump cap though is real joules or watt seconds.

[Hoppy]

I think you are worrying too much about amps and watts.  When the system is tuned it all be working in reactive power the dump cap charge very fast to a higher voltage. This is because the cap will charge on the pure voltage node points from each generator coil while the current is at the zero node so the cap is hit with standing wave. What happens in the dump cap though is real joules or watt seconds.

This makes no sense to me as a practical proposition. Have you actually achieved self-running using this approach?

Hoppy

[nueview]

@ bolt
i think what you are trying to tell people is about the phase change that occurrs on ciruits voltage and current relationship it is best described using capacitors set in series and paralell put a high voltage to a series string and the voltage is divided among the caps by number but the current is total then shift the capacitors to paralell and the charge current is multiplied but the voltaqe is less. the reverse is also true for this phase shift.
martin

[bolt]

@ bolt
i think what you are trying to tell people is about the phase change that occurrs on ciruits voltage and current relationship it is best described using capacitors set in series and paralell put a high voltage to a series string and the voltage is divided among the caps by number but the current is total then shift the capacitors to paralell and the charge current is multiplied but the voltaqe is less. the reverse is also true for this phase shift.
martin

You are assuming there is no gain because that has what you have always been taught.  I believe you see PF correction in this way alike a conventional transformer where the volts and amp always = watts in = watts out minus losses so moving it about doesn't create anything useful but the method i am showing is a real eye opener when you understand for all these years it was so simple in relative terms. Its NOT simple to tune though.

This Thrapp device is real i know how this works and the principle is identical to the muller setup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhn2w4UvZkg&feature=related

Watch VERY carefully how the generator  starts up. LISTEN to the sound when its hit full resonance VARS power. Then look at the capacitors on the side of the generator. He used to have a big box of caps on the floor like 12 off 50uf's.  The poles are all wired out of phase.  The little DC motor is the "pulse motor" on muller.  Behind the generator is a 120v inverter to power the lamps and is the same as Romero DC to DC inverter in effect.

I don't have one of these but i know about 6 OU generator systems i have very high creditability for the reports by private  emails over the years. I have seen looped RV's over skype pushing about 250 watts into a load. Another RV now is running in canada 2000 watts OU.  There are others in Norway in the mountains powering kabins. There are several Magnetic Amplifiers RV's not looped but they increase power by a COP 5 in Santo Domingo DR.  This is beside all the other stuff we know like Kapandaze, TPU, Isamael MEG etc so not surprise to me whatsoever when i see RomeroUK's muller. Exciting yes but not shocking or dismissed as a fake