PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[yfree]

@All

Just to answer your questions about runtime.
In the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcftGrBEaL0&feature=player_embedded#at=25, Tiger2007 says he does not know how long it would run. However, later in his forum, he explains that the longest time it ran was 20 hours; it runs nicely during the day, but at night it tends to stop (temperature dependence?). He also tried to load it with the LED but the voltage was  dropping. When he disconnected the LED, the voltage went up again and stabilized at 7 - 9 V as it usually does. The capacitor he is using after the rectifier is 6 x 2.2 mF. I understand he is still working on this project.
I stumbled on this accidentally, as I understand Russian to the point of being able to read scientific literature in Russian, although my Russian is self-taught and passive. If you have any further questions, I will try to answer them to the best of my ability.

Best regards,

yfree

[beno]

@yfree:
The issue with that the circuit tends to stop at night is most likely caused by that it fetch energy from the ambient environment.

You would actually see the same if you connected an antenna to a capacitor (through a rectifier - which one can make of four diodes), and measured the charging capability during the day and night, and in different weather.

If you measure this, like I have, you'll see that:

* The charging capability tends to decrease at night
* I found that it tends to be reverted comparing to the weather - by this I mean: The charging capability tends to be bad in good weather, but good in bad weather (like rain).

Best regards

Beno

[beno]

Now the question remains why?

Does the charging capability seems to decrease at night .. This could be because of less electric noise pollution from radiostations, mobilephones and so on at night

Does the charging capability seems to be good in bad weather .. well one also see more lightning in bad weather than in good 

Best regards

beno

[jmmac]

Hi yfree and beno,

This information that the russian circuit works longer during the day is very interesting. I've been learning about the work of prof. Konstantin Meyl (which claims to have achieved overunity with a setup similar to one by Tesla) and he has a theory that it's possible to extract energy from the solar neutrino flux that constantly goes through the earth. He states that scientists are now learning that neutrinos interact with the earth and a part of that flux is absorbed. He says that the neutrino flux measured during the night is about half that measured during the day - because at night the neutrinos have to cross the earth to reach the detectors.

I tried to confirm this on the web ... and found a different explanation to the differences in neutrino flux measurements. See: http://140.119.115.32/sa/pdf.file/en/e015/e015p048.pdf
It explains neutrino research and observations and it seems that neutrinos oscillate between different states as they travel from the sun to earth. When they reach earth (daytime side) there are more neutrinos in one particular state and when the flux reaches the other side of the earth (nighttime side), the flux has changed and there is less neutrinos in that state. See page 5 of the document - there is a good illustration of this phenomena.

This could be an explanation to why the russian circuit works longer during the day - somehow it is able to interfere with a particular kind of neutrino and extract energy, and that kind of neutrino is more present during the day. Who knows!

Regards,
Jaime

@All

Just to answer your questions about runtime.
In the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcftGrBEaL0&feature=player_embedded#at=25, Tiger2007 says he does not know how long it would run. However, later in his forum, he explains that the longest time it run was 20 hours; it runs nicely during the day, but at night it tends to stop (temperature dependence?). He also tried to load it with the LED but the voltage was  dropping. When he disconnected the LED, the voltage went up again and stabilized at 7 - 9 V as it usually does. The capacitor he is using after the rectifier is 6 x 2.2 mF. I understand he is still working on this project.
I stumbled on this accidentally, as I understand Russian to the point of being able to read scientific literature in Russian, although my Russian is self-taught and passive. If you have any further questions, I will try to answer them to the best of my ability.

Best regards,

yfree

[gyulasun]

Hi Folks,

yfree,

Thanks for the interesting infos.  I recall Floyd Sweet also found his setup performed differently during the nights vs daytime.
Well, 20 hours run time sounds good. Hopefully it can be improved to COP>1.
His using a LED as a load proved to be too much load for that circuit, max some ten to some hundred microwatt power is involved. that is why measurements are very hard to do. Looping seems also difficult because the self consumption of the switch mode DC-DC converter (I believe it is needed) is hard to build for small currents but still high efficiency but perhaps not impossible.

jmmac,

The neutrino issue sounds believable, at least not impossible, an approach not to be rejected offhand, thanks for the link.

beno,

Some years ago I was in a yahoo mailgroup where such blocking oscillators were 'at stake' and once a member reported his circuit continued running when he disconnected its battery. Then, some hours later he realized his circuit picked up some EM radiation from his laptop that was placed on the same table he normally tinkered with circuits. 
So enviromental 'inputs' can enter our setups but we have to be aware of all man-made signals, radiations, near-fields etc when doing tests.

Thanks,  Gyula