PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

   A side note, but relevant to our quest for novel energy sources.  First a quote from ChrisC:

Just in case you missed this one.  It's real.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4967330n

cheers
chrisC

  Thanks, ChrisC -- Yes, I saw it -- months ago.  LOL.

Notable to me, Fleischmann on camera stated that he should never have called what he was seeing "fusion" in the first place.  (OK, I can agree with that.)
But he did not saw what it should be called.... 

     Recall that I and colleagues at BYU and U of Arizona published claims of a much smaller effect, but clearly d-d- fusion from the energetic neutrons and protons observed.  (See our publication in Nature, April 1989). Our claimes were put on solid footing when the “BYU-level” cold-fusion effect was made 100% reproducible by experiments in Japan and Europe, along with the use of state-of-the-art equipment (which we also used). Replication is the heart of science. The best metal for catalyzing cold fusion found so far is a lithium-palladium alloy. A brief summary can be found here: http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf


  People have asked me about the claims of heat-production via proton-Nickel “cold fusion” by Rossi and Focardi in Italy. Below is an abbreviated version of my response, which is also a challenge to the “inventors” to do serious experiments and to publish those results.

First the claim (by Focardi):

“Here’s what’s going on: there, in the container, we have nickel and hydrogen, then we heat up the system. Then, let’s say, the hydrogen nuclei, which are protons, move inside the system and these protons are able to come into contact with the nickel, with the atom, penetrate into the atom and even into its nucleus. So, when the proton penetrates into the nickel nucleus, nickel is turned into copper...” â€" Focardi, http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/04/sergio-focardi-father-of-ni-h-cold.html

Adding a proton to a Nickel nucleus as claimed by Rossi and Focardi will produce Copper isotopes, predominately Cu-59 and Cu-61, since the predominate isotopes of nickel are Ni-58 (68%) and Ni-60 (26.2%). Both Cu-59 and Cu-61 are highly radioactive and easily detectable. And detecting their presence via decay products would conclusively demonstrate the occurrence of the proton-capture reaction on Nickel. I challenge Rossi et al. to make quantitative measurements to demonstrate the proton-Nickel reaction they claim. I would use a gamma-ray detector; detailed gamma spectra from the decay of Cu-59 and Cu-61 are given in this reference: http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/ton/

                Cu-59 http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/cgi-bin/decay?Cu-59%20EC Half life: 81.5 s â€" short enough to be VERY easy to observe and demonstrate, to determine whether actually produced or not.

                 Cu-61 http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/cgi-bin/decay?Cu-61%20EC Half life: 3.33 hrs, also short enough to be VERY easy to observe and demonstrate, to determine whether actually produced or not

Thus, while some have pointed to this claim as "confirmed," to me the Rossi claims are NOT confirmed until they show direct evidence for the process they are claiming, as outlined above.

[dimbulb]

I think it is possible to get the 8X joule thief to output most of what is seen on the scope.
It is a question of which principles must be employed.
It is fun to find the longest running led but can we translate this into useful application on the 8X.
Is the next logical step a question of how can we merge all those waves efficiently ?

[JouleSeeker]

Dimbulb, IMO the next logical step is to measure Einput (easy) and Eoutput (difficult) for various circuits, calculating efficiency n.  I like to see rigor without rancor, and this forum is one of the best for that approach.

I hasten to add to my remarks about the Rossi device -- I have written him (months ago now) and I hope that he will accept the challenge to:

make quantitative measurements to demonstrate the proton-Nickel reaction they claim. I would use a gamma-ray detector; detailed gamma spectra from the decay of Cu-59 and Cu-61 are given in this reference: http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/ton/

Do you see what a difference this will make to the scientific community?  huge.  And thus I hope my "challenge" will be understood as a desire to help.

[nul-points]

Steven, i hope you have an enjoyable break from these energy investigations and find some quality time with family and friends

who knows, some important development might be germinating out of sight even now, and need a week or so, undisturbed, before 'breaking through to the surface' and into view 

we look forward to continuing recent ideas about preliminary thermal testing when you return

all the best
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[JouleSeeker]

Steven, i hope you have an enjoyable break from these energy investigations and find some quality time with family and friends

who knows, some important development might be germinating out of sight even now, and need a week or so, undisturbed, before 'breaking through to the surface' and into view 

we look forward to continuing recent ideas about preliminary thermal testing when you return

all the best
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Thanks so much, NP -- kindly and well put.  I resonate with everything in your post.  Our family trip begins tomorrow and goes nearly four weeks...  I will have sporadic computer contact, but hope to keep up with developments.

And I agree -- " some important development might be germinating out of sight even now,"  -- I hope so! I would like to contribute to novel energy research along with you and so many fine researchers around the world -- I truly am happy when ANYONE makes a breakthrough, either in measurement or (especially) in a promising device.

I won't disappear , just traveling and away from the lab for awhile (sigh...)

And I understand there are some major FE conferences coming up in the next few weeks...  While I cannot attend myself, I have provided  "travel assistance" so a friend in this area CAN attend (no strings attached).

Hope we can all rejoice in the developments "germinating even now"! 

Thanks again, NP and all. 
Cheers,
Steven