PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[JouleSeeker]

I would suggest that they both have the same L. What is different is exactly what Tesla states and that is, that the normal coils have the BEMF restricting the flow of current through self induction. The bifilar coil is designed to counter the BEMF and runs unrestricted except for the normal wires resistive value. That one fact allows the field to build in a much greater capacity in and around the bifilar coil. I bet, if you designed your little system there to pulse the bifilar coil in a burst mode you would see a much bigger field happen because the burst would flow though the bifilar very very fast with little restriction and would allow you more field to collect through an external pickup coil as well.

That is an interesting concept, Jbignes5.   I should like to try it out sometime... 

Meanwhile, I have succeeded in stretching the wound wire coils on the nail and found that as I spread out the windings, the measured inductance L goes DOWN in both cases.   By stretching out the bifilar-wound coil in this way, I get down to L = 10 uH -- the same as the single-wound coil (in tightly-compressed condition).

I propose to repeat my experiments with the L values now the same, 10uH in each case.  (I will also take measurements with the probe at the "flat" end in addition to the "pointed" end, as someone suggested.)

In addition, I now have a simple power supply that produces a "spiked" output (AC though), which I will post about later.

@Lawrence:   I look forward to your continued work on resonant LC circuits.  You might look at the following thread based on resonant LC circuits also -- quite interesting -- based on Tesla coil concepts:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-22.html#post154306

[ltseung888]

@Lawrence:   I look forward to your continued work on resonant LC circuits.  You might look at the following thread based on resonant LC circuits also -- quite interesting -- based on Tesla coil concepts:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-22.html#post154306

Thank you for the link.  Your excellent work is much appreciated.

[nul-points]

 

Thank you, NP!  exciting work.  Please keep us informed of your continued results as the tests you are conducting progress.

PS -- what transistor did you use?  and cap of C1?

thanks Steven, will do


on the latest SJ1 variant shown above:

C1   0.1uF ceramic       }    select on test, for required
D1   OA93 germanium }         pulse rate (10-20Hz here)
Q1   C560B PNP
LED1 Blue

there's also a 100uF Tantalum cap across the supply battery
(not shown in schematic)

i'll post a graph for this latest experiment when i have a little more data for the latest 2x AAA charging test


UPDATE: SJ1 looped variant with DIY cell #5
the SJ1 LED flash variant with my DIY cell has now been recharging/self-sustaining for approx 1000 hours, having returned back up to around it's original voltage (as at the start of this continuous run, July 8th)

the control experiment with a similar DIY cell loaded with just a cap & resistor, is behaving quite differently to its 'sister' cell powering the LED flasher - it's not clear yet if its average voltage is going to discharge slowly or sustain around an average level, but it's been showing some relatively large voltage swings which last for several days, even though it only has a stable, passive load

(see attached images below for the 2 graphs)


thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[JouleSeeker]

  Thanks for the information and the INTRIGUING data-plots, NP.  I say Wow!

  @All:  Your input is requested on the following.

I have been invited to examine/validate an energy device -- which is great, just what I would like to do to help in this energy research effort.
BUT -- inventor seeks:

1.  Signed non-disclosure agreement, for 3 years or until marketed.  (He is seeking a patent, I understand.)
2.  Over $150,000 for a "non-exclusive license" so that I could proceed to build these devices, sell them, start a small company (which I already have) etc.

Now, I'm basically OK with #1, I think, as this protects the invention for a time.

But #2 is just too much for me...  IMO.  I mean, I don't have that kind of money, but I know a fellow who probably does --IF  I validate FIRST.
Also, I would not mind being involved in distributed manufacture -- all over the world is what he evidently wants -- great. BUT $150K+ for a license and disclosure  ...  he indicates this is not greedy, but to cover costs etc.   And that he will, in time, release the data freely to the public.

What should a guy do? 
Comments welcomed.

[jbignes5]

I wouldn't go for it. Your initial instinct is right. There are far too many scams over this topic and to tell you the truth if it does work then securing the patent is enough of a protection. The NDA is designed to keep you quiet for three years so no other people find out about if this is a scam. By then, he is gone with both the device (if he really has one) and your money or in your case your friends money.