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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

Started by JouleSeeker, May 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM

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Hope

You can build a lux meter easily with a photo diode, it may be a little crude but you can get consistent reading.  This will serve as a baseline to correlate data from.

http://www.electronics-lab.com/blog/?p=1834

http://elm-chan.org/works/lux/report.html

JouleSeeker

  Thanks for that, Hope.

I've been following discussion and  developments of the "Tesla switch", and -- like Nul-Pts -- I've incorporated some of these ideas into my sj1 circuit.  Thus, trying to re-charge batteries using the sj1 circuit as a "switch" -- a very fast switch.  I just started a run today, will report results over the next days/weeks.

  TODAY (9/24/11)  Matthew Jones has posted his "GUIDE" Part 1  for his Tesla Switch at energeticforum -- I would attach his PDF here for our convenience, but it's huge...  See his "Guide" here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/962-use-tesla-switch-123.html

Also, his post today -- it's fair to call it a challenge -- "Il lance le defi"--

QuotePart 1 released
@all

This is the first of 2 parts of the Guide for the Simple switch. I am pretty sure I covered everything as far as small one goes.
Part 2 will include the big one and will compiled with this version.

Simple Switch TS Guide Part 1

If you have any questions feel free to post them. If your not currently trying to build and all you wanna do is analyze I am not interested in answering your questions. Make sure before you ask you can provide a picture of the parts, unless its a question about ordering parts.

Make sure to read the whole paper before you attempt to build and defendantly follow the startup and safety guidelines outlined in last part of the writeup. They will save you alot of grief.

Now as far as specific go alot of different things can be used. If you do not know the difference between things then just buy the parts I listed in th PDF. If you do know the difference feel free to change the recipe but do not expect me to be able to help with really weird things.

I at first I said I was going to cover alot of different IC's. I didn't and I am not going to. If you choose to use another IC outside of the listed ones PIC and Stamp you do so knowing you need to find the correct code to make it work.
I give you enough info to find and write the correct code.

Several times I speak about a switch that is not Published and is very powerful. I will not even discuss this switch with you unless you have a working prototype of the outlined switch. Before you the mistake of asking ME IN PRIVATE without providing a workup of the outlined switch I will cut you off and not help you again.
When the time comes and some of you manage to get a handle on the SIMPLE LITTLE SWITCH or the big one for that matter, I will contact YOU, and we will go into an agreement before I share anything with you.

Post your work and results. This the key to gaining knowledge of the next step. Nothing not even money will get you any further.

Enjoy
Matthew Jones



He claims OU, somewhere around 300% IIRC... the thread is about 120 pages long now; here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/962-use-tesla-switch-123.html

Can't find a thread here at OU on Matt Jones' build -- perhaps we should start a new thread??

What do you think about this one?  IS THIS IT?



nul-points

Quote from: JouleSeeker on September 24, 2011, 03:09:29 PM
[...]
[Matthew Jones] claims OU, somewhere around 300% IIRC
[...]
What do you think about this one?  IS THIS IT?[/b]

Steven

here's my 2c....

the 'Simple Circuit' by MJ is only designed to re-charge 2 out of its 4 batteries as it runs (and MJ clearly states that battery voltage will decrease)

so if his claim of '300%' OU applies to this arrangement then this figure must presumably rely on the rectified output from the transformer

i don't recall seeing any hard data which relate to performance of this circuit

the tests which you and i are running with SJ1-related circuits are designed to re-charge 2 batteries (or cells) in parallel from a similar pair of batteries/cells in series, whilst simultaneously driving a separate load

this approach directly enables us to determine if there is a net gain in charge in the DUT (by periodically swapping the battery/cell pairs)

this is the basic principle of the so-called Tesla Switch - more complex arrangements just automate this battery/cell pair swapping (or arrange for two mirror-image circuits to mutually re-charge each other's supply on a cycle-by-cycle basis)

until MJ (or ANO replicator) provide some hard performance data for the published design(s), we can obtain our own indication as to the likelihood of a Tesla Switch type device producing OU results


update shown below on my ongoing test with SJ1 variant and 2 serial cells charging 2 parallel cells bellow (Blue graph shows terminal voltage for 'charging' cell pair; red & yellow show terminal voltages for individual supply cells; vertical line indicates swap of cell pair - their data changes from 'supply' to 'charging' & vice versa)


thanks
np


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JouleSeeker

Quote from: nul-points on September 24, 2011, 10:56:28 PM
Steven

here's my 2c....

the 'Simple Circuit' by MJ is only designed to re-charge 2 out of its 4 batteries as it runs (and MJ clearly states that battery voltage will decrease)

so if his claim of '300%' OU applies to this arrangement then this figure must presumably rely on the rectified output from the transformer

i don't recall seeing any hard data which relate to performance of this circuit

the tests which you and i are running with SJ1-related circuits are designed to re-charge 2 batteries (or cells) in parallel from a similar pair of batteries/cells in series, whilst simultaneously driving a separate load

this approach directly enables us to determine if there is a net gain in charge in the DUT (by periodically swapping the battery/cell pairs)

Excellent points, NP!  Yes, this is what I'm doing also, just as you said above.

Quotethis is the basic principle of the so-called Tesla Switch - more complex arrangements just automate this battery/cell pair swapping (or arrange for two mirror-image circuits to mutually re-charge each other's supply on a cycle-by-cycle basis)

until MJ (or ANO replicator) provide some hard performance data for the published design(s), we can obtain our own indication as to the likelihood of a Tesla Switch type device producing OU results


update shown below on my ongoing test with SJ1 variant and 2 serial cells charging 2 parallel cells bellow (Blue graph shows terminal voltage for 'charging' cell pair; red & yellow show terminal voltages for individual supply cells; vertical line indicates swap of cell pair - their data changes from 'supply' to 'charging' & vice versa)


thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Again -- right on.  Thanks, my friend. 

JouleSeeker

  Some of you, like me, have been following the RomeroUK saga...  very interesting.  Today he is "confessing" some things at the OUR.com forum.  Suggest you read the full context if you're interested:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1102.100


For instance, reply #107,

QuoteYou are right, I am frustrated, that device had a x wire, and is not possible to get even close to OU with it, I keep trying, there are unlimited things I can try and I love it.
With this confession are people going to be more happy? Who knows?


Best regards,
Romero