PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[Freezer]

You may be right, Freezer. But then why does Romero feel free to develop another roto-device, NOT a "Muller device", he emphasized in his post (yesterday, IIRC).

Well, he obviously has people watching him now, so if he is successful with anything else, he will probably get another visit.

And will "they" try to silence others who come up with a self-running device of the Muller type?  other similar type?  interesting questions.

You can bet the farm on that one.  They have, and will continue to do so, and they have all the legal power behind them.  "Secrecy act of 1971"  Anything they deem as a threat to national security, they can seize and take possession of, anytime.  What does nation security mean in this case, ... anything they feel like.. If you are not in the U.S., it doesn't matter, money will buy suppression in one way or another.

Does anyone know this "Baratolougus" (sp?) fellow -- seems he might know more about this "mystery"... 
I'm just curious, I guess.  But beyond that, I would like to see an OU device get out to empower people without being stomped-on or enriching the wealthy elitists...

The only way to get a invention out in the public is to precisely and clearly draw up the complete schematic, to where anyone can understand it, and release it as soon as you can across multiple boards.  After that they can't touch you because they have nothing to suppress.

[lanenal]

What is the frequency on whcih transistor is opened ? Is that resonant frequency of C and L here or only part of L connected between baze and emitter ?

Good question. I would just say: the similar frequency condition with Professor Jones's circuit, since it is an exact mirror (NPN --> PNP) circuit.  It seems to me the frequency is a composition of two: half cycle it is the charging of the small cap via the base resistor (let the frequency be f1 Hz ), and half is the discharging of the cap through one of the two coils (let it be f2 Hz). Then the whole thing is at frequency of f = 2/(1/f1 + 1/f2).

@all: It is easy to get other JT circuits to work in self-charging mode. See below for another example.

[forest]

Good question. I would just say: the similar frequency condition with Professor Jones's circuit, since it is an exact mirror (NPN --> PNP) circuit. 

@all: It is easy to get other JT circuits to work in self-charging mode. See below for another example.

Can you post your LTSpiceIV input file ? I downloaded this program and plan to learn how to operate it.

[lanenal]

Can you post your LTSpiceIV input file ? I downloaded this program and plan to learn how to operate it.

OK. It is a text file, you need to change the extension to .asc after download.

[forest]

Sorry folks. This LTSpiceIV simulation must be seriously flawed.I've got COP 26 from slight modification of circuit.Bizzarre....