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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

Started by JouleSeeker, May 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM

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jmmac

Quote from: JouleSeeker on June 25, 2011, 02:18:28 PM
@Jaime -- interesting work.  Would you do me a favor -- I routinely place a resistor R in SERIES with the LED and measure the Power input (consumption).  I find that the LED gives out close to the same light (per my eye, not too bad a measure for sameness IMO) for R values up to 69 ohms, then the LED gets dimmer.  At R = 21 ohms, I found with a Xee2 circuit that the Pinput was right around 4 microwatts uW.
   Would you check the Pinput for 21 ohms and for 69 ohms (approx is fine) for YOUR circuit?   This will provide IMO a useful comparison.
It is true that eventually (soon) we will wish to compare Pout and Pin.
   Also, I'm not so sure that your signal generator to the base of the transistor is NOT adding energy to your circuit...  my guess is that it does add energy to the system (increasing your Pinput).  Remember, we're now working at the uW level; and transistors are not perfect gating devices.

Professor,

To ensure there is no energy coming from the pulse generator, i used a optocoupler to electrically separate the 2 parts. To keep the circuit simple with small power input, i used the transistor in the optocoupler to switch the led on and off. I couldn't find a good configuration for the setup with the coil.

With the circuit in the picture i was able to dimly light the led, flickering a bit, with around 1uW. I found out that the multimeter consumes some power so i tried connecting it only from time to time. The result was that average power input dropped to around 0.6uW! (100uF cap going from 2.50v to 2.00v in 180-200sec).

I haven't yet tried the resistor in series with the values you suggest but, in theory it should increase the power in for the same led brightness since the resistor will dissipate power.

JouleSeeker

@All -- attached is a photo of our budding physicist and her mother...

Jaime -- use of an optocoupler is a good idea.  Awaiting your result with the resistor(s) added... for comparison with a JT-type circuit.


Quote from: DrStiffler on June 25, 2011, 02:38:20 PM
@JouleSeeker

In answer to your question about RomeroUK, I have absolutely no opinion or knowledge other than passing interest in what it was. As with everyone we have our pet ingrained opinions and beliefs and one of mine is that a mechanical device will not cohere energy and if it appears to be doing so, analysis will show that indeed the coherence is coming in at such point that it could be done without all of the mechanical fuss.

Sad we can not discuss Cold Electricity as it is the the total opposite to what one normally works with and manifests. I'm sure the over the years you will be drawn in that direction and because of its controversial nature I no longer go into it in open forum.

'Just a suggestion' You might think of making you device available in a constructed research form and the reason being the 'Grab Bag' syndrome. It would indeed provide a certified (your device) for researchers to look at and work with.

  I have borrowed a copy of the Bedini-Bearden book on "Free Energy" -- but I'm most interested in EXPERIMENTAL evidence for Pout/Pinput > 1.   As with high-temp superconductivity, which was a stunning breakthrough, the theory can come later.

allcanadian

@Jouleseeker
QuoteI'm not likely to get BYU to sign an NDA to look at your device, Dr. Stiffler.   And I'm personally going open-source with all my alt-energy work now, including the solar cooker/cooler I developed.   I would avoid signing a non-disclosure agreement because it might restrict me from talking about my own research in alt-energy.  I've already turned down getting information on one "magnetic generator" because of they insisted that I sign an NDA first -- and they didn't even have a working prototype.  No thanks, I told them.  An NDA appears to me inconsistent with open-source development of energy for humankind.

I would agree, history is littered with persons having dreams of grandeur and an overwhelming sense of self-importance but the result of their efforts usually evaporates into thin air. Thus we could say any technology no matter how grand which is not utilized by the masses is basically useless and of benefit to very few. I believe our future has little room for people of this character who place their needs first, are motivated by profit and recognition, and it is an antiquated concept I think our great, great grandchildren will find quite amusing. I think many people have a sense that this experiment we call the "American Dream" has run its course and proven to be unsustainable as it should be obvious no system based solely on consumption, continuous growth and greed is sustainable.
Personally I have a great deal of respect for persons who are selfless, who openly give all their knowledge to others in spite of the criticism they usually recieve for doing so. Keep up the good work ;)
Regards
AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

nul-points

 
Quote from: JouleSeeker on June 26, 2011, 10:19:57 AM
@All -- attached is a photo of our budding physicist and her mother...
[...]


they both look a picture of health - the bonding starts here!

the little one may spend of a lot of her early hours sleeping, but i bet she's already dreaming of things like quarks, electron affinity and fun stuff which she will eventually pioneer  ;)

"To do is to be" ---  Descartes;
"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
"Do be do be do" ---  F. Sinatra

DrStiffler

Quote from: jmmac on June 26, 2011, 09:47:26 AM
Professor,

To ensure there is no energy coming from the pulse generator, i used a optocoupler to electrically separate the 2 parts. To keep the circuit simple with small power input, i used the transistor in the optocoupler to switch the led on and off. I couldn't find a good configuration for the setup with the coil.

With the circuit in the picture i was able to dimly light the led, flickering a bit, with around 1uW. I found out that the multimeter consumes some power so i tried connecting it only from time to time. The result was that average power input dropped to around 0.6uW! (100uF cap going from 2.50v to 2.00v in 180-200sec).

I haven't yet tried the resistor in series with the values you suggest but, in theory it should increase the power in for the same led brightness since the resistor will dissipate power.

Is there really no energy obtained from the Photons, might like to look at;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon
All things are possible but some are impractical.