PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[NickZ]

   Joule Seeker and All:
  I have gotten my BwJt to go from draining a new AA in a couple of days, to now ongoing 6 days, and still lit although very dimly.  So, at least I'm going in the right direction.  This is using the 3/4 inch iron powder Pc core (not ferrite), and a kn2222A  transistor, 5 k pot, and 104 cap. 
  I was wondering if Joule Seeker has finished with the test using an AA.  Last time I heard, in your first days test, the voltage reading had not dropped by hardly anything after a days run time. So, how many total amount of days did it run for on a new single AA???  Hopefully with some usable light intensity, not barely lighting.
  Although this kind of test is not very scientific, I give more credence to it, over any scope, meter, or heat analysis.  As they can be fooled by the recirculating, recycled energy.  But my eyes, are never fooled.
   Kooler has also found that the voltage goes from 0,6 to a 1.5 volts, up and down constantly.  How would any instrument be able to measure that type of result correctly?   As the battery in this case is part of the load.  The output from one of his devices secondary coil is only 4 giving volts, yet is lighting 70 leds.   
  I think that these backward Jtc have gotten my brain running backwards also. So, if I sound a bit off...  you'll know why.

[NickZ]

  Funny how after so many years we still can't replicate the Moray device, that knowledge died with him. Thank you for bringing it up.
 
  Dr. Stiffler has made a self running device using three small coils, a tiny capacitor, and a ground connection, only.  No batteries, at all.   It does not seam to output much power to light an led,  but it's a start.
  There is no device that is really "self running", as they are all run on some type of energy conversion process.  Misnomers don't help to understand the cause of the effect generation.

[nul-points]

 

  Today, I came across a Declaration signed by physicist Harvey Fletcher, [...]
  Dr. Fletcher's Declaration was signed and notarized in Provo, Utah, on May 25, 1979.  (Available here:  http://thmoray.org/, and attached.)  In it he states for the record that he personally observed Dr. T. Henry Moray's energy device;
[...]
Having met Dr. Harvey Fletcher and admiring his clarity of mind and sincerity, I find the above statement to be quite compelling.
--Steven E. Jones (Spring City, Utah, July 7, 2011)

thank you for sharing that document - a fascinating glimpse behind the 'legend' of Moray - and a great connection for you, Steven!

i'm pleased to learn that people of Fletcher's calibre were able to be present at such a demonstration

the sketch which i've seen of a circuit diagram (if it truly represented the device demonstrated) appears to be little different from a valve radio in configuration - the unusual parts being Moray's special valves (as hidden in his hand during the inspection of the device at the demo), i believe they may have contained isotopes of some material(s)


my SJ1 variant is on its way, regular airmail post [no NDA required!  ], hopefully arriving by early next week, in time for your access to a calorimeter

thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

[xee2]

  Dr. Fletcher's Declaration was signed and notarized in Provo, Utah, on May 25, 1979.  (Available here:  http://thmoray.org/, and attached.)  In it he states for the record that he personally observed Dr. T. Henry Moray's energy device; he writes:

Thank you for posting this. I personally feel that Moray's device is the best documented free energy device. I fail to understand why the technology was allowed to be lost. His device seems to have been real and seems to have produce very significant amounts of free energy. I hope you will attempt to duplicated it.

[JouleSeeker]

thank you for sharing that document - a fascinating glimpse behind the 'legend' of Moray - and a great connection for you, Steven!

i'm pleased to learn that people of Fletcher's calibre were able to be present at such a demonstration

the sketch which i've seen of a circuit diagram (if it truly represented the device demonstrated) appears to be little different from a valve radio in configuration - the unusual parts being Moray's special valves (as hidden in his hand during the inspection of the device at the demo), i believe they may have contained isotopes of some material(s)


my SJ1 variant is on its way, regular airmail post [no NDA required!  ], hopefully arriving by early next week, in time for your access to a calorimeter

thanks
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Awesome, NP -- thanks so much for sending your DUT for testing and for comments!
@Xee -- I don't think anyone really knows how to duplicate Moray's device....  I certainly don't have enough information.
But I found this letter from Dr. Fletcher, which provides a little insight further:

"(Copy of the letter written by Dr. Harvey Fletcher of the Western Electric Company under the date of Oct. 6, 1928 to Mr. Robert L. Judd of Salt Lake City. The letter was written in New York City.).



"Dear Judd:



"We had a very pleasant return trip, arriving here in about six and a half days. The constant driving made me somewhat tired but after two days rest I feel fine. One can get a very good conception of what our country is like by driving across it in an automobile.

"Now regarding the experiments Mr. Moray showed us, I will say at the outset that I am just as puzzled as ever. I can give no satisfactory explanation of the result. If I saw all the parts that enter into the production of the light I would certainly agree with Mr. Moray that either the tubes or the rectifier or the coil had some very remarkable properties. As a scientist I should like to see them investigated in some physical laboratory which is equipped to do such work. If Mr. Moray's statement that the tubes have a capacity of a farad is even approximately true, the tubes alone have a great scientific value.

"The evidence as presented seems to favor Mr. Moray's explanation of where the energy came from. However, because it is so contrary to all previous notions about electrical sources and also because Mr. Moray was unable or unwilling to state how the various parts functioned, I am still of the opinion that all of us, including probably Mr. Moray, have overlooked something which will explain the lighting of the light in an orthodox way.

"There are certain facts which became evident to me as I saw the experiments:

"(1) There is considerable energy drawn from somewhere. Apparently you have satisfied yourself that it is not from other power stations in the city. Then it must be in the set itself. This looks improbable although not impossible. Some careful experiments in a laboratory would settle this points.

"(2) The energy is transferred from a high impedance circuit to a low impedance circuit by means of a high frequency current. The high frequency is probably produced by an oscillatory circuit in the system and I think tests would reveal that the frequency of oscillation was entirely controlled by the constants of the circuit and not by outside influences. Any attempt to obtain current or voltage readings on the high impedance side of the circuit by ordinary meters would probably result in failure. This is confirmed by Mr. Moray's experience.

"(3) If the source of energy is within the system, by redesigning the system the same performance can be obtained without the use of the antennae.

"(4) If the rectifier has only the function Mr. Moray claimed for it, then a substitute can easily be found which is much more stable and reliable. "Assuming Mr. Moray is correct in his explanation, in my opinion it would be many years before he would be able to perfect his device by working all alone by the cut-and-try methods that he must necessarily use. Progress is not made in these days by lone workers. There are so many phases to such a problem that it requires the coopers ion of specialists to answer satisfactorily the different phases of the problems. Unless Mr. Moray changes his attitude it seems to be hopeless to expect any progress whether he is right or wrong. He expects everybody to trust him and give him support but still he will trust nobody. When he will take into his confidence such fine men as Marshall and Eyring to such an extent that they can duplicate his apparatus I really think something good will come out of it, probably in quite a different way than he now expects."

"Sincerely yours,

Signed (Harvey Fletcher)* "

Clearly, the device had: "I would certainly agree with Mr. Moray that either the tubes or the rectifier or the coil had some very remarkable properties. "

The "rectifier" was evidently Moray's doped-germanium crystal (?) -- remember, this was before the days of the transistor even.  I wonder if that coil was bifilar?

Does anyone understand this? or know how high the frequency was? :

The energy is transferred from a high impedance circuit to a low impedance circuit by means of a high frequency current. The high frequency is probably produced by an oscillatory circuit in the system -- Fletcher