PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

[Rosemary Ainslie]

And Professor,

Regarding that post of mine - you'll see that I've avoided mention of the science 'behind' the established protocol.  I could, I suppose, rabbit on about the fact that the direction of current flow is determined by the polarity of the applied voltage.  And I could also explain that the voltage induced across a load resistor is in anti phase with the potential difference from the supply.  But the truth is that I've argued this through 27 pages on my own thread where every mention of it was IGNORED.  And I'm rather concerned that should I try and argue those rather elementary facts - then they'll be ignored again.  So what I've done now - is SIMPLY present Poynt's argument - IF such it is - and I'll let you deal with it as best you can.  Possibly there's something that not only I, but the ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY has overlooked.

And as Poynty Point has argued.  'Who cares?'  What does it matter?  What difference would it make if I merely argued science?  He's bound to be believed over any argument that I present -  because he's got 27 years of experience in electronics under his belt.  I've puzzled over that poynt of his - that 'justification'.  I'm not sure that it's entirely relevant.  You see.  What's at question has NOTHING to do with electronics and EVERYTHING to do with elementary power analysis.  And from where I sit - he needs to do a refresher course here.  Unless, of course, he's deliberately misleading us all.  Which I hope is NOT the case.

Again, regards, and as ever
Rosie 
edited - for clarity.

[ltseung888]

Dear Prof. Jones,

I just received an email and the attached picture from Mr. Wang Shen He.  If you have no objections, I shall try to put him in contact with you directly.

Mr. Wang cannot speak English but he has colleagues who can translate the emails for him. 

It may be a good thing to have you or some famous Western Universities to do a verification of his inventions.

My gut feel is that China is already in possession of even more powerful technology and is willing to declassify some advanced technologies.

May be we should start a dedicated thread on his devices at an appropriate time.

More Divine Wine?

[JouleSeeker]

  @Lawrence -- I would be pleased to correspond with Wang Shen He.  Thank you.
"May be we should start a dedicated thread on his devices at an appropriate time."  Yes, that would be a very good idea.

Likewise, Rose -- I think your work should follow your thread (not this one so much); if you would please tell me which thread would like me to go to to provide comments, I would appreciate it.

I see that Sterling Allan will travel to So Africa very soon to see an FE device; is it possible this is your device?  He does not say much detail about it.  It appears he is definitely flying to South Africa:

http://pesn.com/2012/02/07/9602034_Fund_Drive_for_S._Africa_Trip_to_See_New_Number_1_Free_Energy_Technology/
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Fund Drive for S. Africa Trip to See New #1 Free Energy Technology

Sterling Allan has been invited to South African to visit a company who claims to have developed a commercially-ready, solid-state, 5 kilowatt Fuel Free Generator that will be available as early as March for their existing customers. Sterling has also been offered to buy a system to test, with a money-back guarantee.

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by Sterling D. Allan
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A week ago today, I found an email in my inbox that had been sent to me on November 28 that I had overlooked. It was from a person representing a company in South Africa stating that they had a Fuel Free Generator, and that they had seven working prototypes with outputs ranging from 5.5 kilowatts to 60 kW. Included in the email were a couple of pdf documents: a FAQ and a brochure.

I responded with some questions and received quite a few answers.

The system is allegedly a solid-state (no moving parts) device that picks up energy from the environment (the "wheelwork of nature", as Tesla described it) while alternating power between two battery banks. And it would cost "less than grid power". From the best that I can understand, it is probably closest to the Bedini / Bearden type of technology.

The company's first 200 devices, each with a power output of 5 kW, are set to be completed in March, with customers already lined up; with a production rate of 200/month at first, ramping up to 500/month, but that's just for the S. African market. They are entertaining licensing to manufacture the technology elsewhere in the world as well. And they claim to have third party testing results.

"If this is for real, then we have a new #1 in our Top 5 Exotic Free Energy Technologies listing," I've been saying.

I've written a couple of story drafts for their review, to let you all know about them; but the most recent reply came back that they don't want me speaking hypothetically, they want me to speak affirmatively. Instead of "this could be huge," they want me to be able to say, "This IS huge." So they invited me to come see for myself, and to buy a unit to test for myself, which they would refund if it didn't work as described.

    "We wish to invite you to our facility in South Africa to see, understand and test for yourself. This way you will report based on proven facts. Alternatively we could sell you a 5kW unit for testing purposes. If we do not prove our technology we will cover 100% of your travel and land arrangement costs. South Africa is a very beautiful and in-expensive country, and I suggest you visit. Remember we have many world firsts such as 1st human heart transplant (Dr Chris Barnard), Fuel from coal (Sasol), and now the FFG."

They don't have a website yet, and nothing has been written about them anywhere on the web other than my brief mention in yesterday's story about my recent interview on Late Night in the Midlands, where I talked about the technology.

Meanwhile, the company seems to be moving ahead at full steam. Not only do they have a receptionist (rare in the world of exotic free energy), but my contact even has an office secretary. I had to go through those two yesterday before talking to him.

The purpose of this present story is 1) to give you a heads up on this technology, and 2) to seek your help in pulling together the funds for this trip and purchase of a test unit.

I've been given permission to install one on the home we're renting so I can 1) prove this technology, and 2) demonstrate what I've been saying in various radio programs that 5 kW is adequate for a home if the occupants are careful about not turning on multiple high-power loads at the same time. ...

[Rosemary Ainslie]

I think your work should follow your thread (not this one so much); if you would please tell me which thread would like me to go to to provide comments, I would appreciate it.

I see that Sterling Allan will travel to So Africa very soon to see an FE device; is it possible this is your device?  He does not say much detail about it.  It appears he is definitely flying to South Africa:

My Dear Professor,

You keep asking for this link and I keep giving it to you.  Here it is again.  And ... No.  Sadly that has NOTHING to do with me.  But WHAT EXCITEMENT.  I'll wait for the morning and see if I can learn more.

http://www.overunity.com/11675/another-small-breakthrough-on-our-nerd-technology/msg311961/#msg311961

[ltseung888]

Dear Prof. Jones,

Do you think that you can provide the csv files for both Input and Output?  I can use EXCEL to do more analysis.  I believe you mentioned that the voltage of your battery hardly dropped after 9 hours.  Bill also mentioned that some of the batteries of his Joule Thief circuits lasted for months.

I also have FLEET prototypes that seem to have long battery lives.  One of them is showing negative mean (average) power on Input. 

My understanding on Power is that - positive power means power supplied by the source.  Negative Power means Power fed-back to the source.  If we have negative average Input Power, this implies that more power is fed-back to the battery.  This can explain the very long life of the battery.  An EXCEL analysis of the CSV files can confirm that.

My Atten Oscilloscopes have that capability under the save button.  Hope that it is not too much trouble for you.  Thank you in advance.

Lawrence