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PhysicsProf Steven E. Jones circuit shows 8x overunity ?

Started by JouleSeeker, May 19, 2011, 11:21:55 PM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: Farmhand on May 11, 2014, 04:36:37 PM
Yeah sounds good MileHigh, problem is post apocalypse if other people see a set of solar panels on your roof it could mean death for you, without law people will revert to survival of the fittest, the coldest of heart and the smartest. Anything that you have that will improve the lot of others is fair game to stand over merchants and just plain psychopaths. If the wrong people found out that certain individuals had knowledge to produce electric power and so forth then they could force them to build things with the threat of violence to them or family.

When the law disappears then people would be better served not to display what they have that others don't. Brag and get raided.

I have no wish to enter a fire fight over solar panels or a wind turbine for that matter, but many would, even if just to control them. It is the way of people.

Post apocalypse if it happens I'll be using darkness as a friend. Wear a patch on one eye for some time and then use it to see in the dark.  ;D

Post apocalypse if chaos reigns the biggest problem long term will be all the nuclear reactors and associated equipment being abandoned, not to mention all the other dangerous and polluting stuff that will be just walked away from if it becomes too dangerous to travel an leave the family. If that happened I foresee real problems for almost everyone on the planet. With little to lose killing other people will become necessary to continued survival.

First is food/water then is shelter in a safe place, then is health medicine, when all that is in order then people can think about luxuries like electric lights.  :)

The LED's and even the light globes will only last so long. How can the average camper produce an LED or a light globe at home, even if the use a very simple form of wind or water wheel generator, how to produce cheap light with no lamps LED's or anything.

Our small town was completely isolated due to flooding a couple of years back and the supermarket was practically empty in 24 hours once the situation was known. The com lines were broken and the phone towers out of action, we even ran out of money and the ability to access our banked money. Luckily the situation did not last long. If the supply lines are cut for long term then people have to be responsible for everything. Without outside assistance flying in bread and milk and police the crime rate would have went through the roof.

Cheers

This is exactly why we have guns.  It makes for a much more polite society.  I do not wish for it to be this way, but that is how it is.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Farmhand

Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 11, 2014, 05:35:54 PM
This is exactly why we have guns.  It makes for a much more polite society.  I do not wish for it to be this way, but that is how it is.

Bill

I did mention I had no wish for a gun battle over solar panels. In Australia not many people have firearms, but in the U.S. lot's do, guns shoot any way you point them and they work for whoever picks it up that knows how to use it.

Fire arrows were invented to burn out troublesome folks who won't give over stuff and shoot from their house. Then there is ambush, better not to advertise you have what others don't.

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Pirate88179

Quote from: Farmhand on May 12, 2014, 12:54:29 AM
I did mention I had no wish for a gun battle over solar panels. In Australia not many people have firearms, but in the U.S. lot's do, guns shoot any way you point them and they work for whoever picks it up that knows how to use it.

Fire arrows were invented to burn out troublesome folks who won't give over stuff and shoot from their house. Then there is ambush, better not to advertise you have what others don't.

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A good policy for sure.  This is also why I keep a gassed up and fully loaded F-16 in a hanger behind my house. (Not really but, it does not hurt if folks think it is there:)

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

FixedSys

Quote from: MarkE on May 11, 2014, 03:35:55 PM
That's a great run time.  84 min ~5000S @ 18Hz ~90,000 cycles.   The base speedup capacitor loses 0.1uF * 2 * Vsupply - Vce - 2 * Vbe each cycle.  If the transistor is saturating, as it should, then roughly 2*(Vsupply - Vbe) or almost 1V * 0.1uF * 18Hz = 1.8uA is going into the base drive when you start.  That's most of the measured power. You might t try reducing the size of the 0.1uF capacitor to the point that it just saturates the MPSA06 when the supply is close to 0.6V.

So it's approaching COP of 1.0, or what?

I wish these folks putting up these vids would post more numbers about power in / out. Just timed charging via a DMM measuring current would be a good start, right?

This OU stuff is like ufology where no-one ever seems to have a tripod or can focus their cameras.  ::)

MarkE

Quote from: FixedSys on May 13, 2014, 09:15:10 AM
So it's approaching COP of 1.0, or what?

I wish these folks putting up these vids would post more numbers about power in / out. Just timed charging via a DMM measuring current would be a good start, right?

This OU stuff is like ufology where no-one ever seems to have a tripod or can focus their cameras.  ::)
I think it is about 50% efficient.  It's hard to be super efficient running at very low power levels.  Although I think that maybe with some clever coding I can beat that using a very low power uC.  There are parts out there that will run from 0.7V and internally boost to 3.3V very efficiently.