The 90-60 Method for Regauging Magnet Motors

[MagneticPotential]

Hello all. This is my first post on this forum. I have come up with a method for magnet motor regauging which I am calling the 90-60 Method. The "90-60" refers to magnetic field interactions at 90 and 60 degree angles used for canceling out (balancing) magnetic field effects thus mechanically separating the amount of force acting on the magnets from the amount of force required to regauge them. I have described the method in detail on this page:

http://www.magneticpotential.com/2011/05/90-60-method-for-regauging-magnet.html

Though I've been studying and pondering mechanics and magnetism for years, I am not very mechanically inclined, so I've been taking forever to design and build an actual device. I have done some basic experiments just to prove the concept to myself, but nothing worthy of a video.

Though it is a bit tedious to explain, the idea itself is actually very simple. This is why I am so excited about it. I just need to come up with an easy "proof of concept" experiment that people could do on their own. Easy replication is the key to getting this type of information out to the masses, because if people don't understand it, they won't pay it any attention.

I would really appreciate any feedback. When I passed the page linked above to my friends, I was inundated with "It won't work ..." comments which showed little or no understanding of basic mechanics or magnetism. I really feel that any perceived flaw in the method is the result of a lack of communication on my part, which I would very much like an opportunity to remedy.

[kadora]

Hi MagneticPotential
brand new approach to magnets
excellent thank you

[gravityblock]

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MagneticPotential,

It won't work with conventional magnets, but your concept may work using correlated magnets if coded properly.  The repulsive force between two magnets is weaker than the attractive force between the same two magnets, so the magnets won't move into a position resulting in an equilateral triangle.  Here's an on-line calculator which displays the pull and repulsion forces between two disc magnets.  If the calculator doesn't convince you, then here's a video with an experiment using Attraction vs Repulsion in Magnetic Field.

Correlated magnets is going to change everything you ever thought you knew about magnetism.  Watch this video on "Multi-Level Magnetism".  The video shows that the near-field repulsive force is stronger than the near-field attractive force, while the far-field attractive force is stronger than the far-field repulsive force.  The reverse can be achieved also.  In addition to the near and far fields, there is a shortest path.  At the "zero point" there is an equal repel and attractive force.  This can be seen where the magnets are repelling each other, while they are also attracting each other.  Also, note how they were able to dynamically change the "zero point" in real time.  As you can see, the repel force between the magnets is equal in strength to the attractive force between the magnets under the right conditions.  If they're not equal in strength between the magnets, then it's because some of it's strength is elsewhere and it's field isn't totally concentrated between the magnets, but there's an equal net force still present.

Reference Links:

Video Gallery on Correlated Magnets.
Introduction to Correlated Magnetics
Coding Theory.
Correlation Theory.

Spend a few hours researching Correlated Magnets, and your view on magnetism will be much different.  Some of the links above has a "next" and "previous" button to navigate through the presentation.  The correlated  magnets can also be done with arrays or with multiple electromagnets.  If you have the magnets coded properly (where the repel and attraction forces are equal in strength), then your chances of success will be greatly increased.

GB

[Low-Q]

Hello all. This is my first post on this forum. I have come up with a method for magnet motor regauging which I am calling the 90-60 Method. The "90-60" refers to magnetic field interactions at 90 and 60 degree angles used for canceling out (balancing) magnetic field effects thus mechanically separating the amount of force acting on the magnets from the amount of force required to regauge them. I have described the method in detail on this page:

http://www.magneticpotential.com/2011/05/90-60-method-for-regauging-magnet.html

Though I've been studying and pondering mechanics and magnetism for years, I am not very mechanically inclined, so I've been taking forever to design and build an actual device. I have done some basic experiments just to prove the concept to myself, but nothing worthy of a video.

Though it is a bit tedious to explain, the idea itself is actually very simple. This is why I am so excited about it. I just need to come up with an easy "proof of concept" experiment that people could do on their own. Easy replication is the key to getting this type of information out to the masses, because if people don't understand it, they won't pay it any attention.

I would really appreciate any feedback. When I passed the page linked above to my friends, I was inundated with "It won't work ..." comments which showed little or no understanding of basic mechanics or magnetism. I really feel that any perceived flaw in the method is the result of a lack of communication on my part, which I would very much like an opportunity to remedy.

This is interesting stuff. I have a bunch of small disc magnets. I tried this experiment just now. I can confirm that the theory described are 100% correct.

The only consern I can think of is the potentially difference in potential energy between a 90 degree alignment and a 60 degree alignment. Will it take energy to convert from 60 to 90 degrees in order to repeat the cycle?

Probably not as the red magnets will repel eachother, and have to move tangential in order to move from 60 to 90 degrees.

......I was hoping for a Chineese dinner plate tonight (just me and my wife) without thinking about magnets

Vidar

[Low-Q]

Everything highlighted in "bold" is a link.

MagneticPotential,

It won't work with conventional magnets, but your concept may work using correlated magnets if coded properly.  The repulsive force between two magnets is weaker than the attractive force between the same two magnets, so the magnets won't move into a position resulting in an equilateral triangle.  Here's an on-line calculator which displays the pull and repulsion forces between two disc magnets.  If the calculator doesn't convince you, then here's a video with an experiment using Attraction vs Repulsion in Magnetic Field.

Correlated magnets is going to change everything you ever thought you knew about magnetism.  Watch this video on "Multi-Level Magnetism".  The video shows that the near-field repulsive force is stronger than the near-field attractive force, while the far-field attractive force is stronger than the far-field repulsive force.  The reverse can be achieved also.  In addition to the near and far fields, there is a shortest path.  At the "zero point" there is an equal repel and attractive force.  This can be seen where the magnets are repelling each other, while they are also attracting each other.  Also, note how they were able to dynamically change the "zero point" in real time.  As you can see, the repel force between the magnets is equal in strength to the attractive force between the magnets under the right conditions.  If they're not equal in strength between the magnets, then it's because some of it's strength is elsewhere and it's field isn't totally concentrated between the magnets, but there's an equal net force still present.

Reference Links:

Video Gallery on Correlated Magnets.
Introduction to Correlated Magnetics
Coding Theory.
Correlation Theory.

Spend a few hours researching Correlated Magnets, and your view on magnetism will be much different.  Some of the links above has a "next" and "previous" button to navigate through the presentation.  The correlated  magnets can also be done with arrays or with multiple electromagnets.  If you have the magnets coded properly (where the repel and attraction forces are equal in strength), then your chances of success will be greatly increased.

GB

Howard Johnson also said that repulsion is weaker than attraction, but very little difference. This is my experience too. It shouldn't be the reason why Tonys idea don't work in practice. It shoud be something else. I cannot see why yet.

Vidar