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Free Energy Magnet Motor selfrunning powering lightbulb

Started by hartiberlin, June 01, 2011, 05:34:36 PM

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hartiberlin

Yes, seems to be someone from czech republic.

Somebody else mentioned, he might have used a battery,
cause the white thing in front of the big electromagnet could look like
a battery, but I guess this is just another electrolytic cap ?

Hmm, as one is hearing some kind of transformer ringing
noise, I guess they might also use coil shortening pulses there to
use less input current for the coil and higher induction outputs.

Sounds like fast switched coil currents.

Regards, Stefan.

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hartiberlin

Quote from: Groundloop on June 02, 2011, 08:27:37 AM
@gauschor,

I tried this setup some years back. I did use a lot of Neos around the rotor glued
with super glue. I never experienced any demagnetization of the stator magnets.
I guess the force of the rotor magnets is not powerful enough to demagnetization
the stator magnets. The electromagnet pulse needs to be strong enough to "suck"
the magnet past the sticky point. Then you release the coil power and let the rotor
go another round. I do not remember now how much power I did use but I do remember
that MY setup was under unity.

GL.

Hi GL,
the problem with your circuit is, that you use just one normal electromagnet.

This is not good, as you will get a huge induction voltage into the electromagnet
as the permanent magnet rotor approaches.

Then you have to overcome this voltage via a higher voltage to at least
run a current through the coil to repell the magnet out of the sticky zone.
This then costs a lot of energy for this pulse.

Better would be to use 2 toroidal ferrite coils in series 180 degrees out of phase,
so as the magnet rotor approaching, the induction voltage will cancel out.
As the rotor will be attracted to the ferrite, you need then only a very small
current pulse to saturate the 2 ferrite core coils and thus make the 2 toroidal coil cores
"nonmagnetic" and the rotor will rotate
on... the same principle as used in the Steorn Orbo.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

moli53

Quote from: hartiberlin on June 01, 2011, 05:58:42 PM
Does anybody understand, what the guys are saying in this video ?

Please post the translation here.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
cameraman: Well, I do not know if ever such a thing my camera can

Designer: And watch out too close to neloz, the magnets are bastards, just like an eraser.

cinematographer: tighten bulb?

Designer: Yeah, we can turn the bulb, now it is a bit loaded, it will be that little bit more tension

Designer: This deposit is a classic, this is normal as it is to ... by ...

Groundloop

Quote from: hartiberlin on June 02, 2011, 03:43:45 PM
Hi GL,
the problem with your circuit is, that you use just one normal electromagnet.

This is not good, as you will get a huge induction voltage into the electromagnet
as the permanent magnet rotor approaches.

Then you have to overcome this voltage via a higher voltage to at least
run a current through the coil to repell the magnet out of the sticky zone.
This then costs a lot of energy for this pulse.

Better would be to use 2 toroidal ferrite coils in series 180 degrees out of phase,
so as the magnet rotor approaching, the induction voltage will cancel out.
As the rotor will be attracted to the ferrite, you need then only a very small
current pulse to saturate the 2 ferrite core coils and thus make the 2 toroidal coil cores
"nonmagnetic" and the rotor will rotate
on... the same principle as used in the Steorn Orbo.

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan,

The reason the rotor stops is the sticky point where the magnet on the rotor is close
to the stator. You will need a electromagnet to get that magnet past the sticky point.
A toroid core (or two) will not work at all in this setup.

GL.

hartiberlin

Quote from: Groundloop on June 02, 2011, 04:21:29 PM
Stefan,

The reason the rotor stops is the sticky point where the magnet on the rotor is close
to the stator. You will need a electromagnet to get that magnet past the sticky point.
A toroid core (or two) will not work at all in this setup.

GL.

I guess it depends on the size and orientation and airgap and how far the other
stator magnets are away from it.

I think it could be done this way.
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